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TommyL's 2015 Soccer Plays

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  • GoatsGoats Head Moderator
    edited June 2015
    TommyL wrote: »
    CONCACAF Gold Cup Future...

    Mexico to win CONCACAF Gold Cup (+160) 1.5 units to win 2.4 units

    :wacko:

    Gonna be wearing green to the final? (Although it seems like they wear black or red now.)

    EDIT: Just looked at the odds for the heck of it and on a more serious note... With the US and Mexico virtually the same odds, why do you like Mexico so much more? Also, how much (if any) did you downgrade CR b/c of Navas being out?
  • TommyLTommyL Super Moderator
    edited June 2015
    Goats wrote: »
    Gonna be wearing green to the final? (Although it seems like they wear black or red now.)

    EDIT: Just looked at the odds for the heck of it and on a more serious note... With the US and Mexico virtually the same odds, why do you like Mexico so much more? Also, how much (if any) did you downgrade CR b/c of Navas being out?

    You'll be able to find me easily at least...I'll be the only guy wearing a sombrero in the Outlaws section.

    The play is hugely due to the favorable draw that Mexico has vs. our draw. On paper, I think that Mexico has a little bit better squad than us at the moment (especially with Jones out and the questions surrounding Jozy). However, most if not all of that is neutralized by our prior success against Mexico on US soil should we end up meeting them in the final. I'd pretty much consider a US-Mexico game in the final to be a coin flip (with Mexico probably being a slight favorite). I've got the US, Mexico,and Costa Rica (even without Navas) a pretty big distance ahead of the rest of the pack, and think that the gap between US/Mexico and Costa Rica is much smaller than the gap between Costa Rica and the Panama/Jamaica tier of teams. I just don't think that Mexico is priced correctly due to that easy road to the final (of course this is all dependent on us, Mexico, and Costa Rica winning our groups, but it's a pretty safe bet with how weak I see the field at the moment).
  • TommyLTommyL Super Moderator
    edited June 2015
    Updated Result: +16.665 units (ROI: +10.8%)

    Pending plays...

    Copa America
    Chile to win Copa America (+590) - 1 unit to win 5.9 units
    Brazil -.5 Venezuela (-189) 1.89 units to win 1 unit

    Women's World Cup
    USA to win Women's World Cup (+300) - 1.5 units to win 4.5 units
    Germany doesn't win the World Cup (-230) 2.3 units to win 1 unit
    Sweden/Germany under 2.5 (-107) 1.07 units to win 1 unit
    South Korea/France under 2 (+201) 1 unit to win 2.01 units
    Norway E England (+107) 1 unit to win 1.07 units
    Japan -.5 Netherlands (-122) 1.22 unit to win 1 units

    Gold Cup
    Mexico to win CONCACAF Gold Cup (+160) 1.5 units to win 2.4 units
  • GoatsGoats Head Moderator
    edited June 2015
    Thanks for the explanation, most of that makes sense. Maybe you can find a red, white and blue sombrero.

    Without following Mexico like you do, I had in my head that a US/MEX final should be roughly a coin-flip, although I was perhaps weighting the home-field advantage more heavily than you. This was making me think that both the US and Mexico could actually be +EV at the current prices which is why I wanted to know what made you like Mexico so much more.

    FWIW, my impression is that Jozy will be fine barring a setback (which is of course certainly possible).
  • TommyLTommyL Super Moderator
    edited June 2015
    Too good of a price to pass up...

    Peru to win Copa America (+3000) .2 units to win 6 units
  • TommyLTommyL Super Moderator
    edited June 2015
    Copa America

    Peru to Advance (-175) 1.75 units to win 1 unit
    Columbia/Argentina over 2 (-110) 1.1 units to win 1 unit
    Brazil -.5 Paraguay (-133) 1.33 units to win 1 unit

    Women's World Cup

    Japan over 1.5 goals (+140) 1 unit to win 1.4 units
    USA/China under 2.5 (-140) 2.1 units to win 1.5 units
    England E Canada (+134) 1.5 units to win 2.01 units
  • TommyLTommyL Super Moderator
    edited June 2015
    Hitting Peru again at an even better price...

    Peru to win Copa America (+3400) .1 unit to win 3.4 units
  • GoatsGoats Head Moderator
    edited June 2015
    TommyL wrote: »
    USA/China under 2.5 (-140) 2.1 units to win 1.5 units
    England E Canada (+134) 1.5 units to win 2.01 units

    FWIW, without actually capping or running numbers or anything, I like these quite a bit from following the WC as closely as you know I do. Was pretty surprised to see Canada favored like that. GL.

    P.S. Check your email when you have time.
  • TommyLTommyL Super Moderator
    edited June 2015
    Also hitting Chile one more time to win it all...

    Chile to win Copa America (+260) 1.5 units to win 3.9 units
  • TommyLTommyL Super Moderator
    edited June 2015
    Updated Result: +17.995 units (ROI: +11.1%)

    Pending Plays...

    Copa America
    Chile to win Copa America (+590) - 1 unit to win 5.9 units
    Chile to win Copa America (+260) 1.5 units to win 3.9 units
    Peru to win Copa America (+3000) - .2 units to win 6 units
    Peru to win Copa America (+3400) .1 unit to win 3.4 units
    Columbia/Argentina over 2 (-110) 1.1 units to win 1 unit
    Brazil -.5 Paraguay (-133) 1.33 units to win 1 unit

    Women's World Cup
    USA to win Women's World Cup (+300) - 1.5 units to win 4.5 units
    Germany doesn't win the World Cup (-230) 2.3 units to win 1 unit
    USA/China under 2.5 (-140) 2.1 units to win 1.5 units
    England E Canada (+134) 1.5 units to win 2.01 units

    Gold Cup
    Mexico to win CONCACAF Gold Cup (+160) 1.5 units to win 2.4 units
  • GoatsGoats Head Moderator
    edited June 2015
    TommyL wrote: »
    USA/China under 2.5 (-140) 2.1 units to win 1.5 units
    England E Canada (+134) 1.5 units to win 2.01 units

    Goats wrote: »
    FWIW, without actually capping or running numbers or anything, I like these quite a bit from following the WC as closely as you know I do. Was pretty surprised to see Canada favored like that. GL.

    *Wondering if I'll ever start actually making bets like these after posting how much I like/agree with them*

    Nice job on the under. Go Lionesses!
  • TommyLTommyL Super Moderator
    edited June 2015
    Hitting it again...

    England E Canada (+155) 1 unit to win 1.55 units
  • adastraadastra Junior Member
    edited June 2015
    Thanks for the picks! Soccer is my new favorite sport. :-)
  • TommyLTommyL Super Moderator
    edited June 2015
    Copa America...

    Chile HT/Chile FT (+130) 1 unit to win 1.3 units

    Women's World Cup

    Germany/USA under 1.5 (+191) 1 unit to win 1.91 units
  • GoatsGoats Head Moderator
    edited June 2015
    Goats wrote: »
    *Wondering if I'll ever start actually making bets like these after posting how much I like/agree with them*

    Part two.
  • TommyLTommyL Super Moderator
    edited June 2015
    Women's World Cup

    England +.5 Japan (-133) 1.33 units to win 1 unit
  • TommyLTommyL Super Moderator
    edited June 2015
    Updated Result: +20.625 units (ROI: +12.1%)

    Pending Plays...

    Copa America

    Chile to win Copa America (+590) 1 unit to win 5.9 units
    Chile to win Copa America (+260) 1.5 units to win 3.9 units
    Peru to win Copa America (+3000) .2 units to win 6 units
    Peru to win Copa America (+3400) .1 unit to win 3.4 units
    Chile HT/Chile FT (+130) 1 unit to win 1.3 units

    Women's World Cup
    USA to win Women's World Cup (+300) 1.5 units to win 4.5 units
    Germany doesn't win the World Cup (-230) 2.3 units to win 1 unit
    Germany/USA under 1.5 (+191) 1 unit to win 1.91 units
    England +.5 Japan (-133) 1.33 units to win 1 unit

    Gold Cup
    Mexico to win CONCACAF Gold Cup (+160) 1.5 units to win 2.4 units
  • TommyLTommyL Super Moderator
    edited July 2015
    Time for the Honduras fade...

    Friendly tonight

    Mexico -.5 Honduras (-166) 2.49 units to win 1.5 units

    Gold Cup

    USA -.5 Honduras (-285) 2.85 units to win 1 unit
  • TommyLTommyL Super Moderator
    edited July 2015
    Copa America on Friday night

    Paraguay/Peru over 2.5 (-146) 1.46 units to win 1 unit
  • TommyLTommyL Super Moderator
    edited July 2015
    Gold Cup

    Jamaica/Costa Rica over 2 (-108) 1.62 units to win 1.5 units
  • TommyLTommyL Super Moderator
    edited July 2015
    Women's World Cup for tonight...

    Japan under 1 goal (+128) 1 unit to win 1.28 units
  • TommyLTommyL Super Moderator
    edited July 2015
    TommyL wrote: »
    CONCACAF Gold Cup Future...

    Mexico to win CONCACAF Gold Cup (+160) 1.5 units to win 2.4 units

    :wacko:

    Poor Chicharito. He never stood a chance of staying healthy after I made this play. At least I didn't use my powers against a US player this time.
  • jammerjammer Senior Member
    edited July 2015
    I don't watch much soccer, but it seems like you don't have to do a whole lot to get a penalty kick in the two semi-final games. 3 out 4 the 4 calls looked borderline at best. The U.S. call may have been the worst. Not only was she outside the box, but she initiated the contact in the first place.
  • duritodurito Senior Member
    edited July 2015
    TommyL wrote: »
    Poor Chicharito. He never stood a chance of staying healthy after I made this play. At least I didn't use my powers against a US player this time.

    Sweet.
    jammer wrote: »
    I don't watch much soccer, but it seems like you don't have to do a whole lot to get a penalty kick in the two semi-final games. 3 out 4 the 4 calls looked borderline at best. The U.S. call may have been the worst. Not only was she outside the box, but she initiated the contact in the first place.

    They were all bad calls. Japan's was out of the box too.
  • TommyLTommyL Super Moderator
    edited July 2015
    Copa America

    Messi doesn't score (-150) 1.5 units to win 1 unit

    Gold Cup

    Panama -.5 Haiti (-176) 1.76 units to win 1 unit
    USA -1, -1.5 Honduras (+104) 1 unit to win 1.04 units
    USA wins group A (-335) 1.675 units to win .5 units
    Costa Rica wins group B (-110) 1.65 units to win 1.5 units
    Mexico wins group C (-525) 2.625 units to win .5 units

    Women's World Cup

    Germany/England over 4.5 (+358) 1 unit to win 3.58 units
  • The WASPThe WASP Member
    edited July 2015
    Great respect for your knowledge and willingness to share.

    Your early call for Chile to hoist the Copa America trophy was masterful. As was your play on Costa Rica vs. Spain in the WWC.

    Do you see any opportunities at all in tonight's final for the women?
  • TommyLTommyL Super Moderator
    edited July 2015
    The WASP wrote: »
    Great respect for your knowledge and willingness to share.

    Your early call for Chile to hoist the Copa America trophy was masterful. As was your play on Costa Rica vs. Spain in the WWC.

    Do you see any opportunities at all in tonight's final for the women?

    I think both the side and total are priced correctly. The prop that I came closest to playing was USA to win both halves at +495, but am passing I think.
  • TommyLTommyL Super Moderator
    edited July 2015
    Updated Result: +29.645 units (ROI: +15.8%)

    Pending Plays...

    CONCACAF Gold Cup

    Mexico to win CONCACAF Gold Cup (+160) 1.5 units to win 2.4 units
    USA wins group A (-335) 1.675 units to win .5 units
    Costa Rica wins group B (-110) 1.65 units to win 1.5 units
    Mexico wins group C (-525) 2.625 units to win .5 units
    Panama -.5 Haiti (-176) 1.76 units to win 1 unit
    USA -.5 Honduras (-285) 2.85 units to win 1 unit
    USA -1, -1.5 Honduras (+104) 1 unit to win 1.04 units
    Jamaica/Costa Rica over 2 (-108) 1.62 units to win 1.5 units
  • duritodurito Senior Member
    edited July 2015
    Excellent job Tommy!
  • TommyLTommyL Super Moderator
    edited July 2015
    durito wrote: »
    Excellent job Tommy!

    Thanks. I've hit the winner on the U20, Copa America, and Women's World Cup. Let's just hope that ends now and I made the wrong call in the Gold Cup.
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