0:33 Langston Morris-Walker made Three Point Jumper. Assisted by Gary Payton II. 59-71
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4:53 Gary Payton II made Free Throw.
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Yeah well that was the only points Oregon St scored in the last 4:53 of the game(Oregon wasn't much better) so while it sucks they finally hit a fucking shot, winning that would have been about as bad(in a good way) as losing the dayton OV.
Reference the previous posts where members are stating they are able to get down on all the RAS release lines. If the previous posters could be so kind, can you please respond and provide the name of the sportsbook you're using?? I've used several books, most have limits too low for me. The book I'm using now obviously has a subscription to RAS plays because the moment the picks are released, the lines are removed and replaced 2 minutes later adjusted at least 2-3 points from RAS release line. this killed me lately considering RAS is getting wins where I'm getting losses (Irvine, Kansas under, etc). Appreciate any help I can get from the forum members.
Reference the previous posts where members are stating they are able to get down on all the RAS release lines. If the previous posters could be so kind, can you please respond and provide the name of the sportsbook you're using?? I've used several books, most have limits too low for me. The book I'm using now obviously has a subscription to RAS plays because the moment the picks are released, the lines are removed and replaced 2 minutes later adjusted at least 2-3 points from RAS release line. this killed me lately considering RAS is getting wins where I'm getting losses (Irvine, Kansas under, etc). Appreciate any help I can get from the forum members.
I've had a lot more success with locals than post-ups.
No, I cant. Surely you can understand why many sportsbooks would welcome RAS action. So why would clients be afraid to share that information??
I'm not sure if you're trolling or what. Why would any sportsbook in their right mind "welcome" RAS action? You think that books want to expose themselves to one sided action that's often beating the line moves? I'm sure as hell not telling people about books I have that I can get my RAS stuff in it, as more people hitting them will just cost me that out quicker.
Ok, allow me to rephrase to make everybody happy. Does anyone have any experience, either now or in the past, with sportsbooks that don't adjust a RAS line immediately upon release. If you don't want to share sportsook information you're currently using, please don't respond. If you have information about a book you've used in the past, please share.
Ok, allow me to rephrase to make everybody happy. Does anyone have any experience, either now or in the past, with sportsbooks that don't adjust a RAS line immediately upon release. If you don't want to share sportsook information you're currently using, please don't respond. If you have information about a book you've used in the past, please share.
What you need to do is cultivate new outs (preferably off screens). Ask sports loving friends if/how they bet, get into conversations about sports betting at your local watering hole, etc. Most people are able to get credit accounts or phone numbers of an old school bookie. What works really well is finding a degenerate friend who's been losing with his bookie for years then you go 80/20 with him. You may only be able to get a few weeks of action out of your new account(s) if they pay attention to the line moves or you start crushing from the start. Over the years I've had numerous accounts that paid then cut me off or others that have stiffed me, then the next football season comes and new ones pop up. Just part of the game.
:surrender: becuz run out money for credit it already cost 145 credit for last 2 and half month ras cost around 60 to 70 credit for a month i think it too pricey for just cbb a long for 1 month
:surrender: becuz run out money for credit it already cost 145 credit for last 2 and half month ras cost around 60 to 70 credit for a month i think it too pricey for just cbb a long for 1 month
For the full season, based on about 2.5 plays a day on the average so far, it would cost you around $6000 to subscribe through the end of March.
The whole credit thing has a lot to with why I quit. Its a good idea when you draw it up on paper, but in reality, it's fucking horrible. Volume was suppose to be lower, now it's higher. The whole thing is a mess. All it takes is one horrible year and a brutal credit system idea, and you may lose about 50-70% of your business. Credit system flaws and whatever else will stick out a lot more when he is losing. I thought the Mississippi state play was some kind of joke at first.
For the full season, based on about 2.5 plays a day on the average so far, it would cost you around $6000 to subscribe through the end of March.
That's just crazy. Can't believe how "upscale" it's gotten lol. 6,000$ is insane. Betting 1k a unit, he would need to make 6 units just to fucking break even hahaha. If it was anybody but ras id say it's a true scam.
If he loses 50% of his business but charges 2x his net is the same and he likely loses the half of his clients that due 90% of the bitching. It's a great business model as long as he's providing profit for his remaining customers. It also limits the amount of people pounding the books, which possibly could make it easier for the remaining players to get down on the game at the release number. Theres been chatter for years about him going semi private or at least more exclusive and charging a higher rate. He's basically doing that now, but in a more public manner than I expected.
As I stated before, the price per pick is down from last season. You can't compare the cost of sides only for 10 weeks last year, to sides and totals for a full season this year. It would have been well over $6000 for such a service using last years pricing scale. As Durito alluded to, sides volume is down significantly from last year. Each set of plays is optional to subscribers. If you prefer less volume/cost, you can opt-out of sides, totals, or second halves.
We love the credit system concept and will likely continue with it in any service going forward.
We're having our worst CBB season ever performance wise, but it is nothing to do with the credit system or volume.
As I stated before, the price per pick is down from last season. You can't compare the cost of sides only for 10 weeks last year, to sides and totals for a full season this year. It would have been well over $6000 for such a service using last years pricing scale. As Durito alluded to, sides volume is down significantly from last year. Each set of plays is optional to subscribers. If you prefer less volume/cost, you can opt-out of sides, totals, or second halves.
We love the credit system concept and will likely continue with it in any service going forward.
We're having our worst CBB season ever performance wise, but it is nothing to do with the credit system or volume.
Let's say the service for an entire season does cost 6k for all the plays. What would you recommend someone would need to wager per unit for it to make since to subscribe?
Let's say the service for an entire season does cost 6k for all the plays. What would you recommend someone would need to wager per unit for it to make since to subscribe?
He will say way lower, but I'd say at least 200k roll betting at least 3k per game.
I would say 3k too. Just not logical once so ever. Combine the hassle
of getting down (especially with the limits you need), ability to sustain these outs, and overall bankroll you need, time it takes, and it just doesn't make since for almost anyone. Even if you do have all these things, you still need to be about 30% crazy to do it.
As even Ed will tell you, the markets are getting harder to beat, yet he's now trying to balance sides, totals, and second halfs. Maybe he's not good enough to be profitable anymore by trying to do all three?
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Yeah well that was the only points Oregon St scored in the last 4:53 of the game(Oregon wasn't much better) so while it sucks they finally hit a fucking shot, winning that would have been about as bad(in a good way) as losing the dayton OV.
Of course I had Irvine + 2.5........That was the only RAS play where I did not get the release line............3 amazingly sick beats in the same day.
Good thing I got down on Portland State.
I wasn't able to get the release line, so luckily i held off on betting it.
I've had a lot more success with locals than post-ups.
Surely you can understand why this would not be in the best interest of those posters who are able to get down.
I'm not sure if you're trolling or what. Why would any sportsbook in their right mind "welcome" RAS action? You think that books want to expose themselves to one sided action that's often beating the line moves? I'm sure as hell not telling people about books I have that I can get my RAS stuff in it, as more people hitting them will just cost me that out quicker.
What you need to do is cultivate new outs (preferably off screens). Ask sports loving friends if/how they bet, get into conversations about sports betting at your local watering hole, etc. Most people are able to get credit accounts or phone numbers of an old school bookie. What works really well is finding a degenerate friend who's been losing with his bookie for years then you go 80/20 with him. You may only be able to get a few weeks of action out of your new account(s) if they pay attention to the line moves or you start crushing from the start. Over the years I've had numerous accounts that paid then cut me off or others that have stiffed me, then the next football season comes and new ones pop up. Just part of the game.
For the full season, based on about 2.5 plays a day on the average so far, it would cost you around $6000 to subscribe through the end of March.
That's just crazy. Can't believe how "upscale" it's gotten lol. 6,000$ is insane. Betting 1k a unit, he would need to make 6 units just to fucking break even hahaha. If it was anybody but ras id say it's a true scam.
I didn't say everyone that quit was bitching, I said the bitching probabaly came from the group that would quit.
We love the credit system concept and will likely continue with it in any service going forward.
We're having our worst CBB season ever performance wise, but it is nothing to do with the credit system or volume.
Let's say the service for an entire season does cost 6k for all the plays. What would you recommend someone would need to wager per unit for it to make since to subscribe?
He will say way lower, but I'd say at least 200k roll betting at least 3k per game.
Absolutely 3k per game
of getting down (especially with the limits you need), ability to sustain these outs, and overall bankroll you need, time it takes, and it just doesn't make since for almost anyone. Even if you do have all these things, you still need to be about 30% crazy to do it.
As even Ed will tell you, the markets are getting harder to beat, yet he's now trying to balance sides, totals, and second halfs. Maybe he's not good enough to be profitable anymore by trying to do all three?