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2013 Football: a Benny Profane Odyssey

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  • Old-TimerOld-Timer Senior Member
    edited August 2013
    kdog wrote: »
    Totals under 50 USED TO BE a subset you could bet into blindly. Not any more.

    Remember the sheet Blindly betting Under the best numbers were 48,49,50,and 51 was the best. Made money sorry to see those days are long gone.
    For old times sake Under 54 was a 55% bet. But with a very small subset . If you bet the Under from 45 - 52 you were 2007 -1628 55.2%
  • JafarJafar Banned
    edited August 2013
    underwraps wrote: »
    Only close to kickoff and against home favs


    1) Spiro will still be making plays.
    2) The Russian syndicate is just as dangerous in Prison as they are out doors. They will still be making plays.
    3) Phil Gurian his arrest means nothing communication wise and he will be getting bets off. SEC couldn't even stop this guy :)



    Those very same people as before will still be moving lines. Remember USA prisons are not Russian or N. Korean slave camps.

    As far as Billy Walters and the 3 others mentioned above will still be pounding the boards.
    All 4 of these groups really don't depend on math models to give them winners in the NFL. BW used to in his hay day, way to filthy rich now.
    BW is a bully and sort of a LEX LUTHER type when it comes to getting hidden info from coaches, players, assistants
    All 4 groups have a variety of connections starting from coaches all the way down to the clown who hands out towels with illegal stickum on it.

    I just saw this and will be able to respond more accurately after this week. But something tells me you are incredibly wrong. Phil ain't betting from jail on a recorded phone LOL. The others are out on bail, they very well could be betting. I'll know come next week.
  • JafarJafar Banned
    edited August 2013
    Bish wrote: »
    Heard Phil may get out soon, gonna cost him 9 m's

    Would love to hear more about this. I couldn't stand that piece of shit. I'd love to see him rot in jail but I suppose having to part with 9mm would somewhat please me. Funny story. April 2012 I went to the Masters and we rented a house in Augusta with a couple other sports bettors. He invited Phil and Phil came up for a couple days. I walked the course with him and his older buddy. He had no idea who was. Heard he went apeshit when he found out it was the real Jafar after the trip. He once told me on the phone that he was gonna find me and rip my head off.
  • underwrapsunderwraps Senior Member
    edited August 2013
    Phil ain't betting from jail on a recorded phone LOL
    have you ever done federal time?
  • JafarJafar Banned
    edited August 2013
    No I have not. But he isn't in prison right now. He is awaiting trial.
  • BennyProfaneBennyProfane Senior Member
    edited August 2013
    underwraps wrote: »
    have you ever done federal time?

    Not yet, but trust me, he'll do a great deal of time in jail.
  • JafarJafar Banned
    edited August 2013
    Not yet, but trust me, he'll do a great deal of time in jail.

    LOL. I doubt it.
  • underwrapsunderwraps Senior Member
    edited August 2013
    Jafar wrote: »
    No I have not. But he isn't in prison right now. He is awaiting trial.
    Odds are in his favor to walk and if he doesn't.... IMO a recorded phone won't stop him from playing.
  • BennyProfaneBennyProfane Senior Member
    edited August 2013
    Jafar wrote: »
    LOL. I doubt it.

    Just teasing. You're my fucking hero, and you always will be.
  • LawboyLawboy Senior Member
    edited August 2013
    Get lawboy on the case and those sentencing guidelines shrivel up. Best result of 2012; Mexican kid with 2M in cash in his car, after leaving the stash house where 4000 lbs was later found, 24 months.
  • BennyProfaneBennyProfane Senior Member
    edited September 2013
    468 Panthers +3 +110 (pinnacle)
    I bet this at the Silver Legacy as soon as the 3 1/2 showed up, and imo, it's by far the best on the board. Seattle can't possibly be more overrated. Their record last year was more a product of playing in the worst division in football, and they were on their way towards getting blown out by Washington until an injury sidelined RGIII. It's a classic "west goes east" game, so they'll be playing at 10 oclock in the morning for them, and Carolina should have them wearing their dark uniforms on a day that's going to be 85 and humid.
    As for Carolina, they're a team that no one is paying any attention to after an off year last year. They should be the more focused and motivated side here.
  • BennyProfaneBennyProfane Senior Member
    edited September 2013
    336 Memphis + 3 1/2
    Very late to the party on this, but I couldn't resist a bet since lots of sharps are betting this like they already have tomorrow's newspaper.
  • HavanaHavana Senior Member
    edited September 2013
    The game # is appreciated
  • BennyProfaneBennyProfane Senior Member
    edited September 2013
    Made it back from Reno in one piece. Have wandered back and forth from Vegas to Laughlin twice in the last week, hit on several girls and got nowhere, bet sports, and just generally contributed nothing to society. Bet the three home dogs in the Nfl this week for my big bets, and was thrilled that Buffetgambler also bet them. Love the Giants especially. Games are won and lost during the week in practice, and have to think Coughlin is furious after six turnovers on Sunday night. Bet the Bills on a whim because I just don't think Carolina is good enough to lay on the road against anyone. Colorado +10 at home to Fresno was the only college bet I made early in the week.
    Put in a lot of parlay cards this week. William Hill is taking 50 dollar 10 teamers without approval, and the prime directive quickly became to bet as many of those as possible. Most of them died on Saturday, and the ones that were left didn't make it to late action on Sunday.
    I keep running into old friends around Vegas, but the conversations are never long, and I can't believe how much I've changed in the last five years.
  • BennyProfaneBennyProfane Senior Member
    edited September 2013
    188 Arizona under 62 1/2
    Late night steam chaser special
  • BennyProfaneBennyProfane Senior Member
    edited September 2013
    413 Jacksonville +19 1/2
    Can't imagine this one steaming any more. Public perception is that this game is between this year's guaranteed Super Bowl champion, and a team that would lose to Florida State. Big letdown spot for Seattle, off a win against their biggest rival in a game that was very physical, and with a road trip to Houston on deck. Seattle has scored 41 points in two games, so have to think they'll wind up in the low 20s again this week. If Jacksonville gets a touchdown somehow, they'll cover here. Plenty of backdoorability.
  • Old-TimerOld-Timer Senior Member
    edited September 2013
    413 Jacksonville +19 1/2
    Can't imagine this one steaming any more. Public perception is that this game is between this year's guaranteed Super Bowl champion, and a team that would lose to Florida State. Big letdown spot for Seattle, off a win against their biggest rival in a game that was very physical, and with a road trip to Houston on deck. Seattle has scored 41 points in two games, so have to think they'll wind up in the low 20s again this week. If Jacksonville gets a touchdown somehow, they'll cover here. Plenty of backdoorability.

    Sounds like your making a better case for the Under, Flat or not if Jacksonville scores Double digits I would be very surprised. Jacksonville scored it's first TD of the with 2.23 left in the game yesterday. Good Luck 19.5 is rather enticing but your basing only on the fact that Seattle comes up Flat after giving San Fran an ass whupping which it could give them the reverse effect. If I could pick up a 41 I'm on the Under. Best of Luck it should be an interesting game.
  • themartythemarty Senior Member
    edited September 2013
    Does Jacksonville stay on the west coast this week or did they return home last night?
  • BennyProfaneBennyProfane Senior Member
    edited September 2013
    Old-Timer wrote: »
    Sounds like your making a better case for the Under.

    I hadn't even thought of that because the 19 1/2 just stuck out like a sore thumb. Jacksonville has scored 9 points in two games (you have to count the Kansas City game as a shutout, lol), so how much can they really be expected to do against a Seattle team that has a premier defense. As bad as Jacksonville is, they're still professional atheletes, and any spread in the NFL that is over 15 is an automatic take in my book. Something in the 27-10 range seems like the most probable way this game plays out.
  • BennyProfaneBennyProfane Senior Member
    edited September 2013
    418 Pittsburgh +2 (bookmaker)
    Squares on Chicago, but they seem a touch overrated as a 2-0 team that could just as easily be 0-2. Laying it on the road against a team that should be going all out after a tough week in practice. You usually have to put me in a straightjacket to keep me from betting home dogs in primetime games. Worth a small bet.
  • Old-TimerOld-Timer Senior Member
    edited September 2013
    I'm tailing, Pittsburgh ML 115
  • BennyProfaneBennyProfane Senior Member
    edited October 2013
    414 Tennessee +3 (-120)
    Chiefs are probably the biggest overachievers in the league right now, and they are nowhere near as good as their record indicates. Titans are a very quiet 3-1 team that no one is paying any attention to.

    430 Arizona + 1 1/2
    Have a feeling that the Panthers are a touch overrated coming off a bye week and a huge win over the Giants the week before.

    432 Oakland +4 1/2
    Hard to figure out the Chargers. In my power ratings, I had them ranked close to last. While they have played much better than anyone expected, some regression to the mean will probably occur. It's a must win game for Oakland and their biggest home game of the year, so they should be the slightly more motivated team.

    Season to date (8-7, +.4 units)

    Back in Reno right now. Still grinding away. Have been doing much more gambling than drinking and other stuff, so I haven't had any opportunities to get into mischief and write a good story about it. I look around Reno and see nothing but young people who haven't had the chance to blow their life off the way I have, and I feel resentful towards them because of it.
  • BennyProfaneBennyProfane Senior Member
    edited October 2013
    208 Baltimore +3 (-120)
    Ravens might not be the same team that won the super bowl, but they still don't deserve to be a home underdog to a Packer team that struggled in both of its road games this year.

    210 Cleveland +2 1/2 (even)
    Four extra days for Cleveland to get ready to play a Lions team that's nothing special. Browns are actually in first place right now, so have to think Detroit might be walking into a hornets' nest.

    221 Jacksonville +26 1/2
    Just couldn't resist on this one. Jacksonville is the least talented team in the league, but they're still trying hard, and that's better than a talented team that has given up (Giants). They were 19 1/2 at Seattle, and can't believe that Denver is 7 points better than the Seahawks, so there has to be some line value here.
  • BennyProfaneBennyProfane Senior Member
    edited October 2013
    It happened to me again. No matter how hard I try, I keep repeating the same mistakes from my past, and in many ways, I keep regressing away from becoming an emotionally mature person the older I get. When I was a teenager, I used to watch a tv show called Tales from the Crypt on HBO. It was perfect entertainment for a Saturday night, and I always had to wait for my parents to fall asleep because they hated me watching things like that on tv. I always wondered if anything like that would happen to me in real life, and sure enough it did. Here's the episode in question: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0716861/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_44
    Here's the imdb summary: "A classic "boy wants girl, girl is unresponsive to his attentions" storyline gets the Tales from the Crypt treatment, as a young man gets a Love Potion by his mysterious landlord, in an attempt to win over the girl of his dreams. But things soon get out of hand..."
    Basically, as soon as the chick drinks the love potion, she becomes a maniac. Always to wants to spend every second with the guy, wants to fuck every two seconds, and just generally acts as crazy as possible. After about, oh, a week, he gets so sick of her that he goes back to the landlord and says, "Can I have some poison?"
    I met a girl. I dead set tell you she was one of the hottest women I have ever talked to, let alone dated. She was great fun to be around and was pretty intelligent. Sex drive of a jackrabbit, and could actually hold a conversation. Then the ugliness started. She started text messaging me. A lot. Every ten minutes (and that's not an exaggeration), I would get a text from her telling me about her day or asking me a question, or "Hey, check out this really cool Huntington Post article I found." If I didn't write back IMMEDIATELY, she would text back and say, "Why are you ignoring me?? I don't know if this is working Benny, I need to find someone with better communication skills =(" My friends were absolutely no help and made fun of me for texting her back as much as I did. "Ay, you must have given a good fuckin dicking of she wants to talk to you that much." "THE BITCH IS STALKING YOU"
    Since I'm smarter than my friends, I ignored them, and figured they were just jealous that I was balling the hottie and they weren't. The bottom line is that when a whorenado that large is headed right towards you, it's better to just get out of the way.
    Sadly, that wasn't the only red flag. Here are the rest: 1) She has attempted suicide three times in her life 2) She frequently uses LSD 3) She married a closet homosexual when she was 17, and they stayed married for almost ten years, even though they had sex FEWER THAN ONCE A YEAR. To combat this, she started an craigslist ad in the Casual Encounters section that basically ran, "Horny housewife, needs not being met, looking for a discrete fuck". Over a two year period, she had sex with MORE THAN 200 MEN. 4) When her husband found out about this, he disappeared and no one knew where he was for several weeks. Then he mailed her and his family a suicide note, saying that he was too broken up about finding out that she had cheated, so he was going to off himself. Thing was, no one found a body. So they hired a private investigator to try and find him. Turns out that he had cold feet, so he changed his name, moved to Oklahoma, and married another 17 year old meth addict, and they lived in a trailer park together (no, I'm seriously not making ANY of this up. Cutter was there when she said most of it to me, and he will back up my account).
    Out of all the red flags, the constant texting was the biggest one for me, but I was still oblivious to the danger I was in. Let's add it up. You have a woman who is obviously crazy, co-dependent, clingy, and unquenchably promiscuous and who for some reason always wants to text/fuck.
    I don't see what could possibly go wrong with this scenario.
    First, she started giving me shit about the text messages. No matter how often I wrote, it was NEVER enough. If she went an hour without because she was in a meeting/eating/sleeping, that was ok. I frequently wondered just how hard she worked at her job if she was able to send me dozens of texts a day. But the wheels didn't really start to come off the bus until she started to give me shit about my job. Here are some quotes, "I really think it's retarded that you think you can make money gambling. The problem with you is that you don't live in the real world. You think you're so fucking special that you shouldn't have to work like the rest of us poor, uneducated, unhappy working stiffs. You think that because you're smart and special you should get to live in a world full of ice cream, kittens, and unicorns barfing rainbows. Life doesn't fucking work like this and the fact that you're 35 and still haven't figured it out is a major fucking turn off, Benny."
    Seven minutes later and no response from me.
    "Hello, I'm fucking talking to you..."
    My response: "I like it that you're so passionate."
    "I just told you off and you're fucking complimenting me??"
    "I thought it was constructive criticism."
    "No, I'm telling you to pull your fucking head out of your ass. I don't know if I can get serious about a man who doesn't have a career."
    "I liked the part about the unicorn barfing the rainbow"
    "This is just too fucking frustrating. If you ever figure it the fuck out, let me know, until then I don't want to talk to you."
    Five minutes later:
    "Did you hear the Nugget was sold?"

    I could keep going, but you get the point. It took a lot longer that it should have for me to get the point, but I finally just stopped texting her altogether. She wasn't the greatest thing that will ever happen to me, but she was definitely the best fuck I ever had. The day after I broke it off, Cutter and I were driving somewhere and he uncorked the following gem.
    "Dude, I didn't want to tell you this because it would have been too creepy. But I was one of the guys who fucked off her off craigslist."
  • JafarJafar Banned
    edited October 2013
    Benny, there is not a single girl who moved to Vegas that is not trying to run away from some problem that happened elsewhere. They are all head cases. And I know hot is in the eye of the beholder but if she was willing to fuck Cutter, she ain't that hot.
  • BennyProfaneBennyProfane Senior Member
    edited October 2013
    Back in Laughlin, and the last two weeks have seen the second biggest winning streak of my gambling career (football season 2006 was the only thing that has been better). Can't lose at anything. Live blackjack has been great to me, and I hit two royal flushes. Saturday was a weird day. Overslept at Arizona Charlie's, and then wandered around putting in parlay cards. Went downtown and proceeded to have the only losing day that I've had in a while. Parked at Main Street Station, and played 10/7 Double Bonus for about an hour. Went from there to the Las Vegas Club, wonged in on two shoes and couldn't win a hand. The dealers there actually wear something that is a cross between a corset and a bikini. It's utterly ridiculous and makes my blood boil. The girl I was playing against acted surprised when I hit A-7 against a dealer's 10, told me that I needed to learn how to play the game. Walked from there to the D, played more 10/7 Double Bonus, and even wasted ten minutes of my life by playing the 101.6% Loose Deuces machine that's right by the sportsbook. Headed from there to the El Cortez and tried to find an empty table. Sat down and started playing against a dealer from India named Jazz. Sat for a few minutes and one the slot vps who I've known for years walked by. He asked me for my football picks for the weekend, and I gave him the Buffetgambler output. Couldn't win again, so wandered west and got to Binion's. An old friend calls me and he's nearby, so we meet at Benny's Bullpen and eat several $3.50 pizzas. The room was full of Red Sox fans, so I immediately hated everyone there. Tony Bigcharles texted me and asked me for a ride to the Stratosphere. I told him where I was, and he told me he can't walk into Binion's because he attacked someone there with a stapler.
    Then, all hell broke loose. Not sure how many people read/follow my saga closely, but this girl just happened to be hanging out at Binion's that night. (Not sure how to link posts, but the woman mentioned in post 90: http://www.bettingtalk.com/forum/showthread.php/172608-2013-MLB-Pick-Thread/page6
    She immediately stands about two feet away from me and starts staring. "WELL. If it isn't my old friend Benny."
    I didn't even look at her. John, the guy I was there with is a fucking jackal who walks on two legs, so he threw me under the bus.
    "Listen, Benny's too shy to ask you this, but he wants to know if you want to get back together with him."
    "HAHAHAHA. Listen, asshole, I know your friend Cutter stole my sunglasses. When was the last time you saw him?"
    "Umm. I'm not real sure. Maybe a few months ago."
    "What's his last name?"
    "He's really private and secretive, so he's never told me."
    "I know he fucking took my sunglasses. I called the police, but they wouldn't fill out a report since I don't know his last name. I know you know it is, so fucking tell me."
    "Let me think about it. Um......no."
    I'll spare everyone the details since they're not even that interesting, but basically the next half-hour consisted of:
    1) Her giving us the ridiculous logic of why she thinks Cutter took the sunglasses
    2) John flagrantly hitting on her and asking if she wanted to come back to his place since his wife is out of town
    3) Her saying no to John
    4) John responding to this by asking if she wants a threesome with us.
    5) Me banging my head against the table to take my mind off how stupid they both are.
    This is my life, and I fucking love every second of it.
    Leaving for Reno on Wednesday, and I have no idea how long I might be staying there. Kim wants to see me again, and even though I know it's a horrible idea, I'm going to do it anyway. Again, I'll spare everyone the details, but I love her. I really do, but the painful, obvious truth is that I'm not what she's looking for in life, and there's no way I'll ever be the person she wants me to be.

    210 Jacksonville +17 (pinnacle)
    I usually bet my own picks for one half of what I put on the Buffetgambler output, but I made this one a full sized bet. Two cross country flights in a row for S.F., and they're playing a "West goes east early start" game against one of the worst teams in recent memory. Hard to think they'll be focused for this one, and Jacksonville is showing minor signs of improvement. +17 at home means that the line would be at least 23 in S.F., so this is just about an automatic take.
    224 Oakland +3
    Pittsburgh is nowhere near as bad their record, but still don't trust them as a road favorite. They're off a tough, physical game against the Ravens and now have a cross-country flight to play an Oakland team off a bye. Definitely worth a small bet.
  • BennyProfaneBennyProfane Senior Member
    edited October 2013
    And I'm an idiot who didn't read the schedule carefully. Hate making mistakes like that.
  • BennyProfaneBennyProfane Senior Member
    edited October 2013
    In Reno. Mental health deteriorating rapidly. I keep running into old friends who want nothing to do with me.
    208 Hawaii +2 1/2
  • BennyProfaneBennyProfane Senior Member
    edited October 2013
    The real reason I post here is because bettingtalk is cheaper than a therapist.

    From today's depravity file:
    Kim texted me yesterday afternoon. "I need to see you. In the mood for some room service and cuddling. Which hotel are you staying at?"
    "The Peppermill."
    "I just want to see you. I'm still in love with you Benny. No sex, just cuddling. Are you ok with that?"
    "Of course."
    She came over and I actually didn't even watch the world series. We talked about her life. Then she unloaded the following gem: "Listen, I really don't want to hurt you because I really care about you, but....I had sex with someone Saturday night."
    "I don't know how I feel about that. Are you going to see this person again?"
    "Oh, no. I don't even remember her name."
    We spent the next hour and a half having sex in every position, very hard and very fast. She likes it rough and I gave her what she wanted.
    When it was over, she held me in her arms and ran her fingers through my hair.
    "I really do love you Benny."
    I melted into a puddle.
    She kept going, "I just don't know if I want to be in a relationship"
    "That makes no sense. How can you love me and not want to be in a relationship with me?"
    "I don't know. I just don't."
    She got dressed five minutes later and left. I caught the end of the Seahawks-Rams game, went downstairs, played blackjack, lost, and drank Irish ale till the early hours of the night.
  • underwrapsunderwraps Senior Member
    edited October 2013
    "I don't know how I feel about that. Are you going to see this person again?"
    "Oh, no. I don't even remember her name."

    shouldn't the first ? be are you going to see this GUY again?
    instead of person, unless of course you knew already she swings both ways
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