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So Money Sports Tracking

CoopsCoops Senior Member
edited December 2013 in Sports Betting
I started tracking him on 9/1/13 and will attempt to track his daily plays for one year. Will provide weekly or bi-weekly updates in this thread.

Since 9/1/13 he is 2-3 for -1.65 Units. He has beaten the close on 2 baseball totals, bet the closing line on 1 baseball total and 1 CFL total. He also has a tennis play that I can't find closing price on.
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  • eug44eug44 Senior Member
    edited September 2013
    Anyone have any predictions?
  • RightAngleRightAngle Admin
    edited September 2013
    Has everything been WA so far? I know it adds to the workload of tracking, but that is going to be an important aspect of this.
  • CoopsCoops Senior Member
    edited September 2013
    RightAngle wrote: »
    Has everything been WA so far? I know it adds to the workload of tracking, but that is going to be an important aspect of this.

    Yes, I am able to check the time posted on twitter and match up with SBR odds. Other than the tennis play which i can't find, everything else posted is legit.
  • ottimaleottimale Member
    edited September 2013
    The data at sbrodds has been particularly bad lately so perhaps that's the cause of the discrepancy, but of those 5 the only one I have him beating close on is 920 KAN-SEA u7.5, which I graded at -115 (he didn't post a price).

    Doesn't look like M. Raonic -130 was WA.

    Also worth noting that 3/5 of the plays were posted between 1:30am and 4:15am est (and another after 11pm).
  • CoopsCoops Senior Member
    edited September 2013
    SBR showed Mariners/Royals closed @ 7 and he posted under 7.5. SBR showed White Sox/Yankees closed @ 7 and he posted under 7.5 (-125). I guess since this actually closed at Under 7 (+109) its not considered beating the close.

    Also, if he posts live action plays will be very hard to track the legitimacy of them.
  • ericvandenericvanden Senior Member
    edited September 2013
    Coops wrote: »
    Yes, I am able to check the time posted on twitter and match up with SBR odds. Other than the tennis play which i can't find, everything else posted is legit.

    If it was the Raonic match, it closed at Pinny at (-125) (-119 was the no vig closer)
  • prophet73prophet73 Member
    edited September 2013
    I tracked him from January 1st till June 7 (I got bored), but giving him 5 cent lines when he didn't specify or if he had two lines listed, I gave him the better one. Also there were times where he said he "went small" or something of that sort but I still counted it the same size.

    He was 185-200 for -23.34 units.

    But if you don't count NHL, in which he had a bad season (61-92, -32.73u), he was 124-108, +9.39u, majority of which in MLB and NBA, but also in NCAAB, Tennis, NFL, NCAAF, and World Baseball Classic.

    Edit: I found the vast majority of his lines to be widely available.
  • pufferfishpufferfish Senior Member
    edited September 2013
    Thanks guys.
  • SenecaKrookkSenecaKrookk Junior Member
    edited September 2013
    I have been tailing So Money for years and he beats the close a good amount. In regards to his late night plays that is because he lives in Vancouver.
  • newcombenewcombe Senior Member
    edited September 2013
    SenecaKrookk wrote: »
    and he beats the close a good amount.

    it will be good to track though so everyone truly knows. a good amount doesn't really tell someone anything. I am not saying he doesn't at all but again just needs to be computed.
  • RightAngleRightAngle Admin
    edited September 2013
    newcombe wrote: »
    it will be good to track though so everyone truly knows. a good amount doesn't really tell someone anything. I am not saying he doesn't at all but again just needs to be computed.

    My thoughts exactly.

    By all accounts he's a great guy, and exudes more class than most others on Twitter, but lets just put the data together and go from there. Nothing else to debate until then.
  • baseRunnerbaseRunner Senior Member
    edited September 2013
    Coops wrote: »
    SBR showed Mariners/Royals closed @ 7 and he posted under 7.5. SBR showed White Sox/Yankees closed @ 7 and he posted under 7.5 (-125). I guess since this actually closed at Under 7 (+109) its not considered beating the close.

    Also, if he posts live action plays will be very hard to track the legitimacy of them.

    MLB run totals are a huge pain when it comes to computing line value. I often beat the close but get a "worse-looking" number, simply because the lines are shaded so strongly with juice. I would suggest using the half point calculator at SBR for this, and if that's too difficult, just chucking them into a separate bin and computing only the WL record, and not clv.
  • JalapanoseJalapanose Banned
    edited September 2013
    How's this track doing, coops? I know this is for so money, but while on the topic it's funny watching Wes post other cappers' plays lol
  • h82loseh82lose Senior Member
    edited September 2013
    Coops wrote: »
    Yes, I am able to check the time posted on twitter and match up with SBR odds. Other than the tennis play which i can't find, everything else posted is legit.

    You can track Tennis Closing odds at Tennisinsight.com
  • CoopsCoops Senior Member
    edited September 2013
    Since September 1st, he is:

    12-14 for -3.95 Units
  • JalapanoseJalapanose Banned
    edited October 2013
    How's old so freaking money doing this year
  • MaverickSH24MaverickSH24 Member
    edited October 2013
    Jalapanose wrote: »
    How's old so freaking money doing this year

    Been following him a bit myself. Supposedly NHL and CFL are some of his best bets. Been pretty solid on the ice so far, but I've whiffed big everytime I have followed his CFL, including Toronto today. He sure loves his dogs and unders, especially in the MLB playoffs
  • JalapanoseJalapanose Banned
    edited October 2013
    "Dogs and unders" = sounds like our old pal Stoney from bt circa 2002
  • CoopsCoops Senior Member
    edited October 2013
    Jalapanose wrote: »
    How's old so freaking money doing this year

    No more interns, no more job for me in a lil over 2 months, so also, no more tracking of So Money, anyone else feel free to take over.
  • MaverickSH24MaverickSH24 Member
    edited October 2013
    Here are his plays to date since October 1st:

    NHL 10/14 Detroit ML (+135) WIN
    MLB 10/14 St. Louis ML (-120) LOSS
    CFL 10/14 Toronto +1.5 LOSS
    NFL 10/13 Washington +6 LOSS
    NFL 10/13 New England -3 PUSH
    NFL 10/13 Pittsburgh -1 WIN
    MLB 10/13 Detroit ML (+120) LOSS
    NHL 10/13 Carolina ML (-115) LOSS
    MLB 10/12 St. Louis ML (+128) WIN
    NCAAF 10/12 Texas +14 WIN
    NCAAF 10/12 Ole Miss +7 WIN
    NHL 10/12 Colorado ML (+125) WIN
    NHL 10/12 Montreal/Vancouver Under 5.5 WIN
    CFL 10/11 BC Lions +7 LOSS
    NHL 10/11 New Jersey ML (-104/-110) LOSS
    Tennis 10/11 Milos Raonic (-115) LOSS
    NHL 10/10 Toronto ML (+105/+100) WIN
    NHL 10/9 Ottawa/LA Kings Under 5 LOSS
    NHL 10/9 St. Louis ML (-120/-125) WIN
    MLB 10/9 Pittsburgh/St. Louis Under 6.5 LOSS
    NHL 10/8 Colorado ML (+126) WIN
    NHL 10/8 New Jersey/Vancouver Under 5.5 (-125) WIN
    MLB 10/8 Oakland/Detroit Under 8 LOSS
    MLB 10/7 Boston/Tampa Bay Under 7 (-120) LOSS
    MLB 10/7 Oakland ML (+140) WIN
    MLB 10/7 St. Louis/Pittsburgh Under 7.5 WIN
    NFL 10/6 Oakland +6 LOSS
    NFL 10/6 Dallas +7.5 WIN
    NFL 10/6 Chicago PK LOSS
    MLB 10/6 Atlanta/LA Dodgers Under 6.5 LOSS
    NCAAF 10/5 North Carolina +7.5 LOSS
    MLB 10/5 Tampa Bay ML (-115) LOSS
    NHL 10/5 Philadelphia ML (+120) LOSS
    MLB 10/4 LA Dodgers/Atlanta Under 6.5 LOSS
    NHL 10/4 New Jersey ML (-115) LOSS
    MLB 10/4 Oakland ML (+113/+115) LOSS
    CFL 10/4 Hamilton +4 WIN
    NHL 10/3 Florida ML (+150) WIN
    NHL 10/2 Colorado -1 (+158) WIN
    MLB 10/2 Tampa Bay ML (-105/-108) WIN
    MLB 10/1 Cincinnati/Pittsburgh Under 6.5 LOSS

    Overall: 18-22-1
    NHL: 9-5
    MLB: 4-10
    NFL: 2-3-1
    NCAAF: 2-1
    CFL: 1-2
    Tennis: 0-1
  • MaverickSH24MaverickSH24 Member
    edited October 2013
    Plays for Tuesday, Oct 15:
    NHL- St. Louis ML (-125)
    MLB- Boston/Detroit Under 7.5 (-120)
    NCAAF- UL-Lafayette +4.5

    Thursday 10/17:
    NFL Seattle/Arizona Under 40
  • prophet73prophet73 Member
    edited October 2013
    More SoMoney Plays:

    Tues 10/15
    Avalanche -1 (+110) - PUSH

    Wed 10/16
    NY Rangers/Washington Caps U5.5 - WIN
    STL Cardinals (+165) - LOSS
    Red Sox/Tigers O7.5 - WIN

    Thurs 10/17
    Columbus Blue Jackets (+142/+137) - LOSS
    Avalanche -1 (+140) - LOSS
    Red Sox/Tigers U7 - PUSH

    Friday 10/18
    STL Blues/WIN Jets U5.5
    STL Cardinals (+120)

    Based on Maverick's tracking and assuming all -110 lines when not specified (or the better one if SoMoney listed two) here are his updated stats as of 10/1/13:

    Overall: 22-27
    NHL: 10-8
    MLB: 6-11
    NFL: 2-4-1
    NCAAF: 3-1
    CFL: 1-2
    Tennis: 0-1

    -5.18u

    Including Coops data in September, he's 34-41 for -8.13u.

    And as a reminder, I had him tracked from January 1st of this year through June 7th at 185-200 for -23.34 units (albeit using assumed -105 lines when not specified). Though keep in mind that includes a nasty run in NHL last season with a 61-92 for -32.73u.
  • SquigglySquiggly Senior Member
    edited October 2013
    Coops wrote: »
    No more interns, no more job for me in a lil over 2 months, so also, no more tracking of So Money, anyone else feel free to take over.

    What are your final figures on him?
    (Any tracking from 9-16 to 10-14?).
  • prophet73prophet73 Member
    edited October 2013
    Friday 10/18
    STL Blues/WIN Jets U5.5....LOSS
    STL Cardinals (+120)...WIN
    Central Florida +14...WIN

    Saturday
    Georgia/Vandy O60.5...LOSS

    Pending:

    Saturday
    Boston Red Sox (-113)
    NJ Devils (-115)

    As of 10/1/13:

    NHL: 10-9-1
    MLB: 7-11-1
    NFL: 2-4-1
    NCAAF: 4-2
    CFL: 1-2
    Tennis: 0-1

    Overall: 24-29-3
    Total Units: -5.18u
  • RightAngleRightAngle Admin
    edited October 2013
    So Money ‏<s></s>So_Money_Sports <small class="time">4m</small> NCAAF Tuesday...Arkansas State +3. Good Luck!

    No juice listed, and virtually the entire market is at +2.5, or +2.5 -105. That is disappointing.
  • CoopsCoops Senior Member
    edited October 2013
    RightAngle wrote: »
    So Money ‏<s></s>So_Money_Sports <small class="time">4m</small> NCAAF Tuesday...Arkansas State +3. Good Luck!

    No juice listed, and virtually the entire market is at +2.5, or +2.5 -105. That is disappointing.

    He claims Pinnacle had it @ +3 (-115) at 12:50 PM EST

    I dont see that though
  • JalapanoseJalapanose Banned
    edited October 2013
    RightAngle wrote: »
    So Money ‏<s></s>So_Money_Sports <small class="time">4m</small> NCAAF Tuesday...Arkansas State +3. Good Luck!

    No juice listed, and virtually the entire market is at +2.5, or +2.5 -105. That is disappointing.


    Par for the course with the cesspool that is the Twitterverse, boss.
  • prophet73prophet73 Member
    edited October 2013
    True, definitely not "widely available" at -110 (though I did get on it on Carbon at that price). He also just answered a RT about it and he implied he got it on Pinny at -115.
  • RightAngleRightAngle Admin
    edited October 2013
    Line history not showing any moves at Pinnacle since 8:09am PST.
  • prophet73prophet73 Member
    edited October 2013
    In fairness, I've followed his tweets for awhile and I've seem him give playable ranges on his plays when prompted (where he's "made" the line), so he's clearly not strict about following his exact play. So based on this, I get the impression he might not be posting an exact line to followers, but to give people the best idea of where he thinks a play should be. And if people ever have questions (as Coops demonstrated), he's pretty candid about it.

    BTW, not saying this is the correct way in going about it, but just attempting to give context to his style of posting plays. Anyway on to more tracking:

    Saturday
    Boston Red Sox (-113)...WIN
    NJ Devils (-115)...WIN

    Sunday
    WAS Redskins ML (-103/-105)...WIN
    JAX Jaguars +7.5...LOSS
    Broncos/Colts O55...WIN

    Pending:

    Monday
    DET Red Wings (+102/-105)
    NY Giants -3 (-120)

    Tuesday
    Arkansas State +3 (-115)

    Thursday
    TB Bucs +6.5

    As of 10/1/13:

    NHL: 11-9-1
    MLB: 8-11-1
    NFL: 4-5-1
    NCAAF: 4-2
    CFL: 1-2
    Tennis: 0-1

    Overall: 28-30-3
    Total Units: -2.28u
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