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What exactly is a bitcoin?

JalapanoseJalapanose Banned
edited April 2013 in Sports Betting
I struggle with the entire Silk Road (auto capped by my phone, nice) concept.

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  • kass101kass101 Senior Member
    edited April 2013
    Do not even get me started on this topic.

    After the issues the other day I had debate after debate with supporters.

    I personally think is was/is a scam but plenty of others strongly disagree. I can go into more detail if anyone would like.
  • Phil147Phil147 Senior Member
    edited April 2013
    From: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Main_Page

    "Bitcoin is an experimental, decentralized digital currency that enables instant payments to anyone, anywhere in the world. Bitcoin uses peer-to-peer technology to operate with no central authority: managing transactions and issuing money are carried out collectively by the network."

    Now, the Silk Road is a location on the TOR network, which is highly encrypted. Bitcoins are fairly anonymous as it is, but purchases on the Silkroad get processed multiple times (as in fake transactions tumbling the currency multiple times), and become even more impossible to track back to the seller/buyer.

    A similar thing happens with the buyer's information when they send their address over the network, it gets encrypted, and then sent to the buyer through the transaction.

    I haven't used it personally, but have visited it out of curiosity.
  • JalapanoseJalapanose Banned
    edited April 2013
    kass101 wrote: »
    Do not even get me started on this topic.

    After the issues the other day I had debate after debate with supporters.

    I personally think is was/is a scam but plenty of others strongly disagree. I can go into more detail if anyone would like.


    More detail please, yes.
  • TotallyTiltTotallyTilt Senior Member
    edited April 2013
    Very very basic answer: It's a virtual/digital currency people are using for instantaneous, low fee, anonymous transactions.

    The answer can get about as complex as you want, I don't understand half of it and I've read dozens of articles on it. I would suggest googling and reading on your own though.
  • JalapanoseJalapanose Banned
    edited April 2013
    The answer can get about as complex as you want, I don't understand half of it and I've read dozens of articles on it. I would suggest googling and reading on your own though.

    I'm actually waiting on kass to elaborate.
  • Phil147Phil147 Senior Member
    edited April 2013
    The wiki page I linked is likely as in-depth as it gets
  • Old-TimerOld-Timer Senior Member
    edited April 2013
    It's a bit of a coin that there going to screw you out of. When you use a bit coin the rules are made up as you go then they sent you an email that you need more Bit Coins.
  • kass101kass101 Senior Member
    edited April 2013
    Ok so I will go on a bit of a tangent on the bitcoin.

    Basically it was created "anonymously" to be the perfect currency as it is both anoymous and not based on the functions or stability of a country. It is supposed to be fixed like a currency based on something tangible like the gold standard since there are a finite number of bitcoins that can be mined.

    However though bitcoin was constructed to be the opposite of the fiat currencies of today it really embodies all the problems with them without actually having any advantages. The value of the bitcoin relies 100% on the confidence of the public in order to keep its value as well as to increase in value. Without this confidence the bitcoin is worthless as unlike a currency fixed on a commodity, even though there are finite amount of bitcoins the value is completely reliant on confidence. All a finite number of bitcoins does is limit inflation which is actually bad for the expansion of the bitcoin as a currency.

    The only reason these stupid things have value is because they are 100% anonymous if used properly and thus that has a ton of value for certain people in this world. If the bitcoin was not anonymous and I really dont believe it is, it would have zero value to anyone.
  • JalapanoseJalapanose Banned
    edited April 2013
    "If the bitcoin was not anonymous and I really dont believe it is"

    Yeah, there's the rub. You can't tell me we can put a man on the moon but can't tell who is buying drugs off the deep net doesn't make sense to me.
  • StJoes0610StJoes0610 Senior Member
    edited April 2013
    http://pandodaily.com/2013/04/10/great-now-engineers-think-that-they-are-economists-too-2/

    I found this via an economics blog I read, hope it helps. Builds on what kass touched on.
  • kass101kass101 Senior Member
    edited April 2013
    StJoes0610 wrote: »
    http://pandodaily.com/2013/04/10/great-now-engineers-think-that-they-are-economists-too-2/

    I found this via an economics blog I read, hope it helps. Builds on what kass touched on.

    A few of the comments after that article are decent but god does it hurt my head reading these kids living in a fantasy land who think they know how world economy works because they took 1 economics class.
  • StJoes0610StJoes0610 Senior Member
    edited April 2013
    kass101 wrote: »
    A few of the comments after that article are decent but god does it hurt my head reading these kids living in a fantasy land who think they know how world economy works because they took 1 economics class.

    agree, i was very surprised when I read them.
  • CoopsCoops Senior Member
    edited April 2013
    Short it if u can find a market, they were making markets at work on it yesterday, trying to create a CDS trade of sorts.
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