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BigDog & Brians

jackson21jackson21 Senior Member
edited November 2009 in Sports Betting
---Nice job sweeping the board today --- what? - a 7-0 day -- Congratz!

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  • KashmirKashmir Senior Member
    edited November 2009
    They still aren't accounting for the juice. Plus trackpicks doesn't seem to match their results.
  • briansbrians Banned
    edited November 2009
    well i dont know whats going on I just looked and it said we were 8-0

    Big Dog Sports
    13.00 100.00% 8 0 Copy and paste from there site to the left

    Not sure maybe big dog is holding out hahhahah [kidding}

    Ive never been to that site and i have all the info to log on and find stuff but guess what i aint doing it im capping tennis
    Big dog will explain later
  • Big DogBig Dog Banned
    edited November 2009
    Thanks Jackson.
    You are correct except for the late night NBA win that pushed us to 8-0 for the day.

    And Kaskmir, I will address your comments after I double ckeck everything to make sure everything I say is accurate.
  • briansbrians Banned
    edited November 2009
    Can a Mod Please remove my signature From my above post

    Thanks
  • tEABAGtEABAG Senior Member
    edited November 2009
    Someone always has to be negative. Even in a post that is congratulating someone on a good day. Great work guys
  • RightAngleRightAngle Admin
    edited November 2009
    17-11 at TrackPicks, solid start. I also commend you for not making every single play 4 or 5 units like most cappers do at Trackpicks. However, I still see the 59% win rate figure being used at TrackPicks, and your website results do not match Trackpicks. Either way, congrats on a fine day.
  • underalunderal Senior Member
    edited November 2009
    since this has gone off topic anyway let me ask brians a question. who is that girl in your avatar? i've checked that body over quite a few times and have yet to find a flaw.
  • Big DogBig Dog Banned
    edited November 2009
    RightAngle wrote:
    17-11 at TrackPicks, solid start. I also commend you for not making every single play 4 or 5 units like most cappers do at Trackpicks. However, I still see the 59% win rate figure being used at TrackPicks, and your website results do not match Trackpicks. Either way, congrats on a fine day.
    Thanks Edward. I didn't think about or even remember the little introduction I had to include at Track Picks. I will remove the 59% and I'm typing up something now that I hope will explain everything Brians and I are doing.
  • briansbrians Banned
    edited November 2009
    <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=3 width="90%" align=center border=1><TBODY><TR><TH vAlign=top align=left colSpan=9>Picks by big dog</TH></TR><TR><TH vAlign=top align=left>League </TH><TH vAlign=top align=left>Game Date </TH><TH vAlign=top align=left>Game/Pitcher </TH><TH vAlign=top align=left>Pick Type </TH><TH vAlign=top align=left>Unit Value </TH><TH vAlign=top align=left>Pick </TH><TH vAlign=top align=left>Moneyline </TH><TH vAlign=top align=left>Result </TH><TH vAlign=top align=left>Units Earned </TH></TR><TR bgColor=#ffcccc><TD vAlign=top align=left>NFL </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>11/8/2009 </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Green Bay/Tampa Bay </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Pointspread </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>2 </TD><TD vAlign=top noWrap align=left>Tampa Bay +9.5 </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>-110 </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Won </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>2 </TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD vAlign=top align=left>NFL </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>11/8/2009 </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Houston/Indianapolis </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Pointspread </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>3 </TD><TD vAlign=top noWrap align=left>Houston +9 </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>-110 </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Won </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>3 </TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffcccc><TD vAlign=top align=left>NFL </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>11/8/2009 </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Baltimore/Cincinnati </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Pointspread </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>1 </TD><TD vAlign=top noWrap align=left>Cincinnati +3 </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>-110 </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Won </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>1 </TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD vAlign=top align=left>NFL </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>11/8/2009 </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Arizona/Chicago </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Pointspread </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>2 </TD><TD vAlign=top noWrap align=left>Arizona +3 </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>-110 </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Won </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>2 </TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffcccc><TD vAlign=top align=left>NFL </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>11/8/2009 </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Detroit/Seattle </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Pointspread </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>2 </TD><TD vAlign=top noWrap align=left>Seattle -10 </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>-110 </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Won </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>2 </TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD vAlign=top align=left>NFL </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>11/8/2009 </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Carolina/New Orleans </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Over/Under </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>1 </TD><TD vAlign=top noWrap align=left>u51.5 </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>-102 </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Won </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>1 </TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffcccc><TD vAlign=top align=left>NFL </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>11/8/2009 </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Carolina/New Orleans </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Pointspread </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>1 </TD><TD vAlign=top noWrap align=left>Carolina +13 </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>-110 </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Won </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>1 </TD></TR><TR bgColor=#ffffff><TD vAlign=top align=left>NBA </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>11/8/2009 </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Golden State/Sacramento </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Pointspread </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>1 </TD><TD vAlign=top noWrap align=left>Sacramento +3.5 </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>-110 </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Won </TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>1 </TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle colSpan=8>

    </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Staright from trac picks
  • spareshooterspareshooter Senior Member
    edited November 2009
    Congrats on a great day. Continued success.
    Spare
  • Big DogBig Dog Banned
    edited November 2009
    Kashmir wrote:
    They still aren't accounting for the juice. Plus trackpicks doesn't seem to match their results.
    I'm going to try making this as clear as I can.

    After three years of accurate record keeping at BT, I completely threw out both my year to date records for each sport and long term records because of constant bitching and complaining about one thing or another. The final decision to do this was when Edward said my record (59% win ratio over 3 years) was "misleading" because it included money line picks and sometimes a free half point from Skybook.
    I agreed with Edward so I started completely over from scratch with others tracking my record. For our service picks, I chose Track Picks because they currently track 67 other professional handicappers including Edward and AAA Sports. For our web site, if you will notice the banner at the bottom, you will see we belong to the E-Z Cappers network who generates the record for our web site.

    At Track Picks, all picks are tracked by the "official" line at the time the pick was posted and tracks the juice at that time which is also included in our record with any loss. At Track Picks, our overall record is 17-11 for a 61% win ratio. For the last week, our record is 15-7 for a 68% win ratio.

    For our web site, the juice is not accounted for. Units for each pick are simply added or subtracted from the total for each sport and then the overall record. I think this is probably because E-Z Cappers does not track what the juice is and since they do not know the juice, they simply add or subtract the units for each pick. In any event, anyone wanting to bitch about the E-Z Cappers method of record generation should take that up with them. Their banner link is at the bottom of our home page and the dozens of other handicappers who also use their service are listed at their web site so you can also contact all those other handicappers and complain to them to your heart's content. I'm sure they will appreciate your comments as much as I do.

    Our overall record at Track Picks does not, in fact, match the overall record at the web site. This is because we have posted both here at BT and on our web site some free picks that were not part of our pick packages and therefore not posted at Track Picks. I should mention that all three of our last free picks here at BT and at the web site were all winners which boosted our web site record over the last 7 days to 17-7 and a 71% win ratio which is better than the record at Track Picks due to the winning free picks. At our web site, anyone can go to the tab "All Picks" and see every pick posted at the web site including the free picks and the units for each pick along with the results.

    As an observation, I think every single person complaining in the past have all been new BT members with no picks and no record of their own. If you gather from the tone of this post that I'm pissed off - well, I guess I am a little. I'm not used to having my integrity questioned. For the three years I've been a member of BT, the senior members have for the most part been helpful to each other and provided insight and picks for each other that has helped us all win more games. It seems the forum has now degenerated into new members bitching and finding something to complain about when senior members have some success.

    And now, after the time I had spent keeping an accurate record at BT for 3 years has been thrown away and others are keeping our record, instead of talking about the merits of a pick or trying to help each other win more games, we now have more complaining over records generated by 3rd parties and issues that help no one.

    Should someone have an inquiry about our posted record, that is fine and I will respond as best as I can. But to state:
    "They still aren't accounting for the juice. Plus trackpicks doesn't seem to match their results" clearly crosses the line of inquiry and insinuates that our record keeping has been dishonest in the past and continues to be dishonest. In my opinion, there is absolutely no justification for this kind of comment and accusation at BT.

    Lastly, I need to add that these picks were not made by me in isolation. Brians' famous calculator not only agreed with the winners but he eliminated one game I liked which lost and added one game that won which was not even on my list. So, it looks like Brians and I will make a good team. Also, don't get too excited over last week's results. It represents only a very small sample of the total picks to be made in a year's time. Based on the success of the last three years, I expect the win % ratio will drop but we will try as hard as we can to keep it at 55% or better.

    I will be glad to answer any additional questions but will be gone most of the afternoon so it might be late before I can respond.
  • spareshooterspareshooter Senior Member
    edited November 2009
    Spot On Post. Is amazing the ones posting negativity, are members with few, if any posted picks to share with other members, and have just recently joined the forum. Maybe a conspiracy from another forum, to come and try to wreak havoc with the best forum on net? Keep the faith, as all of us "old timers" see what is going on, and we have faith in you.

    Spare ( member since 2001)
  • KashmirKashmir Senior Member
    edited November 2009
    Great day. That doesn't change the fact that juice is not being accounted for and the NCAAFB picks that track for different units at trackpicks are only accounted for at one unit at your site. Plus I recall the first NCAAFB weekend you had Indiana/Iowa up as a pick and when it lost it disappeared. Maybe i'm wrong i'm just stating what I think are facts. GL. If i'm wrong feel free to correct me.
  • KashmirKashmir Senior Member
    edited November 2009
    Yep. Just checked trackpicks and the units don't match up when compared to the NCAA record on their site. I may be new but i've been around forums for years. I bet golf very heavy. Thats my game. As for my comments I really don't care. I just got bored last night and felt like I should post it. I know I would want to know if I was thinking of spending money. Like I said correct me if i'm wrong.
  • KashmirKashmir Senior Member
    edited November 2009
    Big Dog wrote:
    As an observation, I think every single person complaining in the past have all been new BT members with no picks and no record of their own.

    This statement really cracks me up. So anyone who does not post a record or picks has no right to point out your mistakes? Really. Thats a good one.

    The juice thing cracked me up more than anything. Hope you get that fixed.
  • RightAngleRightAngle Admin
    edited November 2009
    Trackpicks record 17-11, your site record is 17-7, that is a pretty big discrepancy that has not been explained.

    EZ Network not accounting for juice and you want potential customers to take that up with them? I think it should be YOU that takes it up with them. It is your site and you are the one who chose them.

    By the way, please do not post picks/records of picks that were not posted here on BettingTalk.
  • briansbrians Banned
    edited November 2009
    RightAngle wrote:
    Trackpicks record 17-11, your site record is 17-7, that is a pretty big discrepancy that has not been explained.

    EZ Network not accounting for juice and you want potential customers to take that up with them? I think it should be YOU that takes it up with them. It is your site and you are the one who chose them.

    By the way, please do not post picks/records of picks that were not posted here on BettingTalk.

    Damn it forgot about tha rule sorry Ed
  • DoubleNickelDoubleNickel Senior Member
    edited November 2009
    RightAngle wrote:
    Trackpicks record 17-11, your site record is 17-7, that is a pretty big discrepancy that has not been explained.

    EZ Network not accounting for juice and you want potential customers to take that up with them? I think it should be YOU that takes it up with them. It is your site and you are the one who chose them.

    By the way, please do not post picks/records of picks that were not posted here on BettingTalk.


    Thank you!
  • james sniderjames snider Senior Member
    edited November 2009
    wow thats a fantastic day!! congradulation, very impressive.!!! Can you tell us what your picks were for saturday and how they did? thanks in advance...............james
  • briansbrians Banned
    edited November 2009
    Kashmir wrote:
    Yep. Just checked trackpicks and the units don't match up when compared to the NCAA record on their site. I may be new but i've been around forums for years. I bet golf very heavy. Thats my game. As for my comments I really don't care. I just got bored last night and felt like I should post it. I know I would want to know if I was thinking of spending money. Like I said correct me if i'm wrong.

    Did u even read what Big dog Wrote ???

    ill explain it in a nutshell

    Track picks keeps our official Record
    We also and try and help our Bt buddies out with free picks Our free picks count at EZCAPPERS because thats where we post them here and on our site

    So the records will be off its all about the FREE PICKS

    Now why dont they use juice at Ez Cappers because they dont know what the juice was it could be -110 or -115 for football

    The best thing to do Kasmir is just follow trac picks, Believe me we are not trying to do anything fishey.
  • Gator101Gator101 Banned
    edited November 2009
    Its amazing how people would rather hate on other people for winning, but not give props for when they are winning, i see this time and time again on this forum.

    Great job Big Dog and Brians keep up the good work!
  • briansbrians Banned
    edited November 2009
    wow thats a fantastic day!! congradulation, very impressive.!!! Can you tell us what your picks were for saturday and how they did? thanks in advance...............james

    cant post the plays against the rules
  • james sniderjames snider Senior Member
    edited November 2009
    oh isee , thanks anyway and ...................WTG...............KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK
  • 53iceman53iceman Junior Member
    edited November 2009
    what is the adress for your new site exactly Bigdog ? Thanks
  • briansbrians Banned
    edited November 2009
    iceman i asked a Mod to remove the site ealier but they kept it up Its in my 1st post in this thread
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