Couple people reached out to me about coming back
danshan
Senior Member
So I feel like I should respond, I love being here and want to be a part of the community BUT
I mean I am warned about calling people names but anyone can call me any name in the book and its ok, I mean OT even named a post after me and called me 4 names 4 tiemes in the opening line and admin told him nothing.
I think its either gloves on or off but not just on me.
My posting style is maybe too much for some people but not for all, it is a small few, most people honestly like to read my posts.
and maybe I need some instruction on etiquette here, i think its important to point out guys posting picks that are going against the line and tailing them is a bad idea. I think its reasonable to question pick posters. I think it ok to challenge peoples thoughts about betting very few things are written in stone.
I honestly think an apology from OT is reasonable for his name calling and I also think as much as you put me on notice to do this or that, that message should be sent to the OT group as well. If any of this can be achieved I am glad to come back and be part of BT!
I patiently await your reply and if anybody members have feedback for me I would be glad to listen if not if you could please tell anyone to reach out to admin to get my contact info and admin dont hesitate giving my email to any member here, thank you!
I mean I am warned about calling people names but anyone can call me any name in the book and its ok, I mean OT even named a post after me and called me 4 names 4 tiemes in the opening line and admin told him nothing.
I think its either gloves on or off but not just on me.
My posting style is maybe too much for some people but not for all, it is a small few, most people honestly like to read my posts.
and maybe I need some instruction on etiquette here, i think its important to point out guys posting picks that are going against the line and tailing them is a bad idea. I think its reasonable to question pick posters. I think it ok to challenge peoples thoughts about betting very few things are written in stone.
I honestly think an apology from OT is reasonable for his name calling and I also think as much as you put me on notice to do this or that, that message should be sent to the OT group as well. If any of this can be achieved I am glad to come back and be part of BT!
I patiently await your reply and if anybody members have feedback for me I would be glad to listen if not if you could please tell anyone to reach out to admin to get my contact info and admin dont hesitate giving my email to any member here, thank you!
Comments
Isn't that what a forum is supposed to be about?
Some of these posters wish only the same 10 people posted and you could fit the past 2 months on the front page.
I can't believe this is a conversation.
just ignore him if you don't like him.
- - - Updated - - -
I honestly think an apology from OT is reasonable for his name calling and I also think as much as you put me on notice to do this or that, that message should be sent to the OT group as well. If any of this can be achieved I am glad to come back and be part of BT!
- - - Updated - - -
its a forum those 5 people only want to chat with each other honestly I dont even understand why the complainers are even on a forum its not the right environment for what they want, they are going to a nightclub and asking them to turn the music down!
- - - Updated - - -
listen tell me specifically what to do and I will agree or not and quit or not AND ask OT to apologize, I know you cant make somebody but just you asking is enough for me and also put on notice the rules apply to all! that is all I ask
- - - Updated - - -
BT is not looking to turn into a boring, purely serious, strictly moderated forum. Posters should feel free to continue posting whatever they want (within reason) as long as they adhere to any applicable guidelines. The new direction merely seeks to increase the amount of serious discussion, decrease the disruptive and potentially harmful content, and give BT a sharper slant. These changes will hopefully help all posters, both serious and recreational, be more successful in their wagering.
tell me where I go wrong here and I will glady say whether I can or cannot comply but believe me I want to
Maybe that's your problem here. Try interacting with this guy. Kinda reminds me of Ray Babbitt.
-- stay out of pick threads
--not ask people questions
--stick to only your own threads
That is the only way to hang out with the cool kids.
I asked for your email and will be in touch if I get it.
Sounds like you are trying to get into danshan's deep pockets.
I've got big plans for danshan!
LOL well I got big plans too!
- - - Updated - - -
so basically dont use the forum, LMAO, yeah that sounds like what can we call it a soft ban, LMAO, is this forum based in the old USSR?
All outta the kindness of your heart($$).
As I have said, there is a certain expectation for posting here and you go against that expectation entirely.
People do not like people posting in pick threads. That is a big no-no.
People think you post too much and that you ought to know certain things before you post here. They will not interact with you if they do not believe you have gotten yourself to a certain point. At least not the people that you want to interact with.
So if you stick to your own threads, you will stay out of trouble. If people come into your thread, they will be willing to discuss things with you.
Like I said, you should spend most of your time in the Think Tank. People love your pick threads because pick threads are popular anywhere.
So yeah, this place is not a welcoming place. It is not exactly the USSR, More like the Masons. You have to be an accepted member.
- - - Updated - - -
Yes, of course.
So as I have also said before, most people here are not on your level. So they cannot answer your questions. The very few that are don't really want to discuss the things you are interested in partially because they are bored and partially because they think you ought to know it.
If on the rare occasion a subject gets brought up that is up for discussion, I think they would respect your point of view and address anything you put forward.
You are also very sensitive for the forums. And especially sensitive to be posting at SBR. But you can get most of your answers there because there are people that can address the stuff you are interested in and even willing to argue about it. You will not find that here.
People here want you to post picks and monitor the progress of your models and not post much else.
This place is also not quite what you think it is. There used to be a lot of professionals here. Since Edward has gone private, not much of RAS is discussed here and a lot of posters such as Dr. H, Buffet Gambler and Stevie Y stopped posting as much. durito got boredand doesn't post anymore. Now and then Groovin would call out RAS and there would be a bit of a battle.
Now it is mostly just people that check the site and post a thing or two. But since not much is up for discussion, it is pretty much dead.
You can't really get what you are looking for here anymore because it is not what it used to be for a variety of reasons.
this is a fancy restuarant and I am acting like its mcdonalds playground but still there is no reason for admin not to address the rudeness and name calling on EVERYONE not just me!
If you follow my guidelines, you will not have any problems. But then, you probably will not want to post anymore. So you just have to figure out what you want. Either mostly post picks and start threads with questions that you may or may not get answers to. Or move along and do something else.
You have brought a little bit too much SBR to the place.
dont go crazy with that comment , your giving a handful of people too much credit
Yes. That is your real problem. You refuse to accept the unwritten rules here. I am more along your way of thinking which is why I interact with you.
But I understand what people are looking for with BT and what the site still wants it to be. People come here because it is not the idiocy of the other forums. But when all you have is serious gambling discussion, not much gets discussed because gamblers aren't that interested in gambling.
I think if you edit out the noise, danshan is just fine as a poster here. He has contributed picks that are meaningful to some, and has facilitated interesting conversation at times. The downside is that you must weed through a lot of garbage, his incessant request for apologies and his re-hashing of name-calling incidents that he thinks must be settled. They don't. Just move on.
The majority of skilled bettors who lurk here have little interest in revealing their secrets or methods. But occasionally, depending on topic, it happens. If you engage one of them, or ask a question and receive no response, move on. Their silence will tell you they're not interested. But sometimes you'll get a response, and in a perfect world, you'll have something to contribute in return.
In my view, danshan treats this place like a search engine. He punches in question after question and expects everyone to give him an exhaustive, step-by-step, detailed answer; then gets combative or argumentative when he doesn't get one or if the answer isn't sufficient. I've observed this first hand in my thread, where I've simply tried to post plays and track results, and have stated as such. I'm not interested in conversation as much. To each their own.
All that said, danshan seems fine if he dials it back a bit, and I would support keeping him around. I think he would benefit from reading more, and asking fewer but more substantive questions, where he demonstrates that he has exhaustively tried to find the answer(s) he is seeking before asking and asking and asking in thread after thread after thread. There are sports betting books, there are old threads here and elsewhere (SBR think tank, 2 plus 2, heck even Groovin's twitter timeline is a fountain of info). Odds are, any question he can think of has been asked before, and the answer is out there. If the answer you found is incomplete and you're looking for more, then reference it in your question, show others that you've tried, and perhaps someone here will be more willing to help.
That pretty much sums it up. There have been times when people have provided with what they thought was enough info and you kept pursuing it and then they basically said F off. That is how it works. That is all they are going to give you. They expect you to do the rest. That is pretty much where you always run into problems.
You are probably the only forum poster in history to start off completely clueless with such a high level ability to program. That is why people think you are a troll.
This is definitely no place for an eager beaver.
- - - Updated - - -
@baseball thanks for the post but I wonder if I am to do exhaustive searches before asking here, what is the forum for? I guess I am really still clueless about that. I want to fit in not force in but I am not a puppet and I naturally rub people wrong. I am definitely not a yes man.
Then they say: "Oh sure, anybody can beat WNBA lines." Lets see you beat NBA.
And then you bet NBA. And they say: "Oh sure, anybody can beat WNBA and NBA betting overnights."
And then you bet NBA lines after the limits go up and then they say. Anybody can have one winning season.
And then you post multiple winnings seasons and get a huge following. And then you ask yourself, why am I giving this all away when I make huge money selling picks instead of giving them away to a forum?
And then they say you were looking to a be tout the whole time.
- - - Updated - - -
I honestly am glad that everyone wants me to lose, it is fuel for me to work harder!