When athletes praise the lord
BigKahuna
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I keep waiting for 1 reporter to stop them ask, does that mean the lord loves you more then everyone else ?
Does tht mean the lord is a Sooner fan and not a Bama fan ?
Or did the lord Just have +17 ?
Absolutely drives me nuts, that's probably why I rooted against Tebow. Keep religion out f it, thank Your offensive line and your parents and shut up.
Does tht mean the lord is a Sooner fan and not a Bama fan ?
Or did the lord Just have +17 ?
Absolutely drives me nuts, that's probably why I rooted against Tebow. Keep religion out f it, thank Your offensive line and your parents and shut up.
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I don't know what context you're talking about it in, but...When I hear something like this, it's usually more along the lines of "I'd like to thank God for the strength" or "I want to thank Jesus for the opportunity", and it's rarely "I thank God for rooting for us tonight and not the other team".
I'm also in the opposite court here. I enjoy hearing that a young man gives credit for his abilities. Nobody seems to blink an eye when the term "God given talent" is used but oppose when an athlete expresses his appreciation to God. The great thing about America as we have the opportunity to express our opinion and he seemed to be quite a humble young man. Would take that any day over the "ME, ME, ME" chatter and the inability by some to not even be able to put a full sentence together. Again, just my opinion...
So god helped you read that there was no safety over the top?
Why did God not choose to have the safety in the correct position ? Does God not love the safety or does the safety believe in another god?
With hunger, war, diseases, economy, should God be really watching this BCS instead of maybe helping world leaders solve more important issues ?
Lastly and most importantly as this young man brought Jesus into this, shouldn't Jesus have stopped priests from his churches to not rape 1,000's of little boys that have been ruined for life ? But I noticed God did help during the court cases as the church paid pennies of what they should have and most priests never went to prison. So God does pick and choose!
My point is religion has its place , whatever religion you believe in, finish of the sporting event is not the time in my opinion.
Lastly, how come the losing players never thank their lord and savior ?
You just don't get it, and nothing that anyone says here will change your mind, so not worth responding.
Totally agree, keep sports and religion separate . Unless you find a gambling god!! Nice message this shouldn't offend anyone..
Sorry you feel that way, thought most of us were having a fairly good discussion.
Or is your frustration that I won't change my mind to follow your beliefs?
Either way respectfully disagree.
I have no desire to get into a drawn out conversation on religion, especially since no one is ever going to change any of their beliefs based on a post at BettingTalk (and also when discussing religion, it seems like everyone thinks that they're "right", and everyone else is "wrong").
I said that you don't get it because when a player if thanking God or Jesus or The Lord, he's thanking them for the strength, abilities, opportunity, guidance, etc for leading him to that moment. He's not thanking him for the other team's safety to blow an assignment or the other team's kicker to miss a Field Goal (at least in pretty much every instance that I've ever seen). It just amazes me that people will have a problem with someone like Tim Tebow who is pretty much everything that's right about the world, while rooting for guys with horrible attitudes, little to no morals, etc.
Tebow seems like a legit good dude. His public displays of faith make me cringe though. For me it's more to do with the fact that, when you belong to the majority group, there's a double standard where it's okay for you to express your faith, but not so much for others to do the same, and most in the majority are not sensitive to that double standard. There may have been a few non-religious people who were annoyed by Tebow doing his God thing, but if a Muslim QB turned toward Mecca and prayed in the middle of a game/after a TD, etc, all hell would break loose with the Christian majority. Which is extremely hypocritical, and one of the things that turns me off about organized faith.
Also, Tebow may be a fine young man. But to certain degree he used his overly religious mannerism and parlayed it into a draft position he had no business getting and to also getting chances he should have never received and would not have received if not for his over the top religious statements.
He is not what is right in the world, people that give and time to charities, people that fight for equalities for no selfish profit is what is right with the world. Don't get fooled by a young man that just gets on TV as the good in the world , most of the greatest humans in our society don't get on Espn and don't peddle religion in the middle of a football game.
I'm of course just speaking for one person, but I'd have no problem at all if a Muslim QB prayed toward Mecca or whatever other religious thing happened. I remember a few years ago when PSU got torched by a Jewish RB from Wisconsin that hadn't eaten since the day before due to it being a Jewish holiday, and I thought it was pretty cool that he could do that and still go out there and perform that well (and of course it was a big storyline in the game that was discussed often).
I will take that bet. Why would it be locked? People sharing opinions no one is attacking the other, just different views. It does happen you know different opinions just sharing opinions without name calling. Try it sometime, you end up learning good things about each other.
Are you basing this on his career 44% from the field or his career 35% from the arc? It's Chris Jackson, btw.
And he wasn't out the next year, he played two more seasons. In his final year, he shot 37% from the floor and 16% from the arc, which may have had something to do with the fact that it was his final season of any significance (he was brought back a few years later by Vancouver/Memphis).
But hey, don't let facts get in the way of the "respectful discussion" that you're trying to have here.
Chris Jackson that's right he was great at Lsu but after the religious statement his shooting went south if I remember correctly.
I didn't realize those were his stats, I know it's been a while since he last played, but I thought he was a better shooter than that.
It was the National Anthem part that got him, not the Islam part. A lot of people take the National Anthem very seriously, and showing an act of defiance during it instead of respectfully standing will get you on people's bad side, completely irregardless of religion.
I've never heard any Christians complain about the hoops player from Northwestern that wears a yamaka every night (nor would I expect to).
He was a great FT shooter, but he didn't get to the line nearly enough for that to be of much significance.
All season Abdul-Rauf, the Nuggets' slick-shooting, joyless point guard and a devout Muslim, had staged his own disjointed protest against the playing of the national anthem before NBA games. Some nights he would listen with his hands in his pockets. Some, he would stretch. Some, he would stay in the locker room. "The flag represents tyranny and oppression," he said, adding that standing for the anthem was a form of nationalistic worship forbidden by his religion....
Initially, Abdul-Rauf seemed intractable. "If I have to, I'll give up basketball," he said. Immediately, he was pounded by fellow Muslims. "The Muslim teaching is to obey and respect," said Houston Rockets star Hakeem Olajuwon. "To be a good Muslim is to be a good citizen." Kareem Abdul-Jabbar told Abdul-Rauf to reconsider his stance. Mohammed Jodeh, head of political affairs for the Colorado Muslim Society, declared that Abdul-Rauf's position contradicted Islamic teaching.
Hopefully I'll be proven wrong, but I had the same feeling when the thread began and Tommy and I have already discussed it.
As far as why I (or Tommy) would lock it, it would be if the thread spun out of control, ceased having anything to do with sports, and became disrespectful... which unfortunately tends to happen in most discussions involving religion.
Yup I remember that, that got him. Cause Hakeem was a devoted Muslim and he would always stand. I remember that the owner of the rockets had a room at the court turned into a praying room, so Hakeem could pray before games during Ramadan so then he could drink water during the game. Pretty cool.
Thanks for the enlightening discussion fellas , hopefully I did not offend. Thanks for sharing.