Yea I mean of course books and locals are going to make adjustments they are not going to allow someone to beat there brains in year in and year out and more than likely its only going to get worse from here on out but there has to be some way some how to beat these lines. I know it's possible and I bet a couple people out there are doing it but the majority of us are still get nickel and dimed with the lines.
Also, do you guys factor in any of these sites that give rewards points where maybe you can get $2,000 cash at the end of ncaab season since you bet so many ncaa games with ed's cards? I'm curious how the math guys would factor that into the equation at the end of the season.
There are many reasons why this is useless. The sites that give points, don't take these bets. If you win using Eds plays, you probably dont get points anymore since you are a recreational gambler. And $2000 is a drop in the bucket for some people. I personally could never bet the amount Im currently betting and care anything about "rewards"
Edit: My response is based off Edwards plays only. I do play certain plays on different websites if the line/juice is the same, and one of those factors can be rewards
Question for Edward. With most books waiting until the last week of January to make all non tv totals available and all of the tricks the books use now that have been mentioned above, could you foresee ending your service in the near future? You have said before that if you could do it all over again, you wouldn't have started a service and I don't blame you for that. Just wondering with the books making it harder and harder on your subscribers if you ever consider saying the hell with it and pulling the plug on it. Please don't by the way! Just wanted to hear your thoughts.
Ok I didn't know if shop a and shop b have the same line if maybe you guys would play with shop a because they are better with rewards. Every little bit counts I have been told and 1 of my shops gives me points on all my wagers so I did not know if using them would be a smarter play. Just trying to get every small advantage that I can possibly get!
I go through pretty vicious swings playing poker, almost on a bi-weekly basis because of the number of hands I play. One thing that helps me is to always keep the long term picture in mind and to keep my focus broad based. Sometimes I'll pull up a graph of the last year or even the last five years and it really puts the losing streak into perspective and it doesn't seem nearly as bad.
Since we are talking finances i also have a question! I'm very curious how much the site bettingtalk is worth??!! I got a feeling that in 2000 it was probably worth 100,000$ but now we are talking 1-3 million $$. Incredible how far this site has came and I've been here since 2003!
The swings don't bother me. Having a good site cutting off my ability to get the right line coupled with the current down swing has me in a foul mood though.
Question for Edward. With most books waiting until the last week of January to make all non tv totals available and all of the tricks the books use now that have been mentioned above, could you foresee ending your service in the near future? You have said before that if you could do it all over again, you wouldn't have started a service and I don't blame you for that. Just wondering with the books making it harder and harder on your subscribers if you ever consider saying the hell with it and pulling the plug on it. Please don't by the way! Just wanted to hear your thoughts.
Anything is possible. The service in its current format available to the general public might not be sustainable. We will evaluate the situation again at the end of the season.
As for the other stuff, I know at some sites, using the phone can be an effective method. Once you find a few sites that work, don't flood them with all RAS action, play one or two plays a day there and try to spread the rest of it around. That should increase your chances of lasting longer there.
Shopping and market timing after release can also be very helpful. This is explained more in the RAS User Guide. There were a few total plays last night that drifted back close to the release line at times between release and close. This especially holds true on 1H lines which have done much better than full game lines YTD.
Ed do you recommend playing the 1st half line on your total plays? Also, say the total is right on pace at halftime and the 2nd half line is within a point or 2 of the original line would you recommend pulling the trigger on the 2nd half and putting more eggs in the basket?
im sorry i didnt specify the totals is what i was going buy.. + the totals will move 2 to 3 times before it setttles back. i meant if you just miss on the totals its usually 1 and a hook before the second move..to 3 or 4 ..the sides are not worth betting after a move mostly because the % is to low to lose any more games''
thanks ras i was going to ask which value has been better 1st half overs or unders ..it makes sense that handicapping the 1st half is easier .. the refs will take over the game more in
the second half.. and the coaches saying foul or dont foul..adds for a big difference
thanks ras i was going to ask which value has been better 1st half overs or unders ..it makes sense that handicapping the 1st half is easier .. the refs will take over the game more in
the second half.. and the coaches saying foul or dont foul..adds for a big difference
A lot of this can actually be accounted for when playing the totals and is built into the lines as they are determined. That's why the 1H lines are not 1/2 of the full-game total. The 1H line on that Ark St./La-Monroe game last night was 58.5 and Sac St./Idaho St. was 56 for games that had closing lines of 127 and 123.5, respectively.
since we are on the tracking subject. Ed, I was curious what your record is on when you have 2 plays on the same game. Like when you have the side and total on the same game. I have always wondered if I should parlay those.
Since we are talking finances i also have a question! I'm very curious how much the site bettingtalk is worth??!! I got a feeling that in 2000 it was probably worth 100,000$ but now we are talking 1-3 million $$. Incredible how far this site has came and I've been here since 2003!
I assume you're kidding but in case you're not.
Where do you see 1-3 million in value with bettingtalk.com? I don't want to speak too much out of turn here, but I think Ed is making the majority of his money on biggerbonus.com and handicapper.net Obviously those 2 sites get traffic from bettingtalk.com members, but some may have heard about Ed in a different fashion and once they found his family of websites, came to bettingtalk.com.
$7 per member adds up to roughly nothing every year. Especially since the vast majority of those members came before the fee. He probably chargers $7 to help fill up his Bugatti a few times a year just for laughs.
So in my opinion, Ed might fly you out to the west coast and put you up in the Ritz if you promise to pay $100,000 for the headaches bettingtalk.com gives him. I think those headaches might have decreased since the addition of Goats. I might be totally off base here, but using a little reasoning should have gotten you here
Hey Utix you got to be one of the rudest most full of hate individuals that I have met in a long time. Everything you say to me is very negative buddy. I'm sorry I might think that the best handicapper in world could be worth a cool 1 million$. Not to mention that he has about 10-12 sportsbook and 5 poker books that endorse his site. He has not had a losing season in what 5 years so yea I thought he might be worth a little more than he is. All i know is someone looking to invest some $$$ should buy edward out and they could sit on the las vegas stip and make millions walking in and out of sportsbooks placing bets. Your first line in post 50 just speaks volumes of your rude and aggressive behaivor. Ed is 1 of a kind and in my opinion he is worth over $1 million for his knowledge.
Originally you were talking about how much the website was worth, now you are talking about how much Edward and his basketball formula is worth? 2 completely different things.
The site includes buying out Edward. The investor and Ed could come up with a $200,000 salary every year or whatever fits their numbers but the investor would get this site along with Ed and his knowledge. That is worth way more than $1 million in my opinion and boy would i like to have that much $$$ because i would do it in a heartbeat. That is how much respect i have for Edward and his knowledge. And like i said in a post yesterday I don't understand why people @ this site are soo negative and jump down peoples throats just like Utix did to me. Just a simple misunderstanding or reading something wrongs always turns into someone jumping down someones throat and blessing them out. Utix is a prime example of this and just a guy who has a very bad attitude. This site is for making $$$ not trying to make someone look bad.
. Not to mention that he has about 10-12 sportsbook and 5 poker books that endorse his site.
So I don't risk being rude to you, I won't explain to you how far off base this is
I thought I might have actually shed some light from my perspective on the subject for you, but I guess im sorry for being a jerk to you. That wasn't my intention, but your info was incorrect and I tried my best to help with the knowledge I had
Alright what I'm saying is if my info is incorrect (and I know I can be wrong) then buddy just let me know. Don't go about it in a rude way or being a jerk because honestly it's just not a good habit to get into. Seriously what good do you get out of blessing me out or making me look like a fool and making yourself look correct? Like i said yea my info might be wrong but just present you case in a different way buddy. No need to make me look like a idiot or clown me buddy just say hey gator i see it this way. This happens on this site a ton where people are out 2 make someone look like a idiot or clown them even if they are wrong who cares lets give that person the right info in a proper manner and move on with the day.
Alright what I'm saying is if my info is incorrect (and I know I can be wrong) then buddy just let me know. Don't go about it in a rude way or being a jerk because honestly it's just not a good habit to get into. Seriously what good do you get out of blessing me out or making me look like a fool and making yourself look correct? Like i said yea my info might be wrong but just present you case in a different way buddy. No need to make me look like a idiot or clown me buddy just say hey gator i see it this way. This happens on this site a ton where people are out 2 make someone look like a idiot or clown them even if they are wrong who cares lets give that person the right info in a proper manner and move on with the day.
I don't see where he was rude. I think you are being a little sensitive.....buddy.
Kash this is exactly what I'm talking about buddy. If you want to make a point then make a point but when making that point don't make someone look like a idiot or be an asshole. What good does it do to make someone look like a idiot. Honestly it just makes you look like a jerk and is just not needed.
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There are many reasons why this is useless. The sites that give points, don't take these bets. If you win using Eds plays, you probably dont get points anymore since you are a recreational gambler. And $2000 is a drop in the bucket for some people. I personally could never bet the amount Im currently betting and care anything about "rewards"
Edit: My response is based off Edwards plays only. I do play certain plays on different websites if the line/juice is the same, and one of those factors can be rewards
As for BT being worth millions, I'm pretty sure Ed would entertain an offer in that price range.
Anything is possible. The service in its current format available to the general public might not be sustainable. We will evaluate the situation again at the end of the season.
As for the other stuff, I know at some sites, using the phone can be an effective method. Once you find a few sites that work, don't flood them with all RAS action, play one or two plays a day there and try to spread the rest of it around. That should increase your chances of lasting longer there.
Shopping and market timing after release can also be very helpful. This is explained more in the RAS User Guide. There were a few total plays last night that drifted back close to the release line at times between release and close. This especially holds true on 1H lines which have done much better than full game lines YTD.
Second half plays would be on a case by case basis, I probably wouldn't advise playing those blindly as you will likely be paying a premium.
the second half.. and the coaches saying foul or dont foul..adds for a big difference
A lot of this can actually be accounted for when playing the totals and is built into the lines as they are determined. That's why the 1H lines are not 1/2 of the full-game total. The 1H line on that Ark St./La-Monroe game last night was 58.5 and Sac St./Idaho St. was 56 for games that had closing lines of 127 and 123.5, respectively.
I assume you're kidding but in case you're not.
Where do you see 1-3 million in value with bettingtalk.com? I don't want to speak too much out of turn here, but I think Ed is making the majority of his money on biggerbonus.com and handicapper.net Obviously those 2 sites get traffic from bettingtalk.com members, but some may have heard about Ed in a different fashion and once they found his family of websites, came to bettingtalk.com.
$7 per member adds up to roughly nothing every year. Especially since the vast majority of those members came before the fee. He probably chargers $7 to help fill up his Bugatti a few times a year just for laughs.
So in my opinion, Ed might fly you out to the west coast and put you up in the Ritz if you promise to pay $100,000 for the headaches bettingtalk.com gives him. I think those headaches might have decreased since the addition of Goats. I might be totally off base here, but using a little reasoning should have gotten you here
only if Rudy is NOT included.
So I don't risk being rude to you, I won't explain to you how far off base this is
I thought I might have actually shed some light from my perspective on the subject for you, but I guess im sorry for being a jerk to you. That wasn't my intention, but your info was incorrect and I tried my best to help with the knowledge I had
I don't see where he was rude. I think you are being a little sensitive.....buddy.