Looks like a local is going to stiff me
Lowkey
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I realize there is likely nothing I can do if he doesn't want to pay me but what would you do?
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Same situation here
I lost, I paid; always
I won fairly big; got stiffed big
Can I risk jail for bodily harm
NO
Forget it; This was five years ago and I still get upset once in a blue moon!!!
they avoided trouble in those days both ways because everybody k\new somebody and it was all about the money not the problems.. I can't play large anymore don't trust anything and that sad this way if I get stiff I lose a few k nothing I can do about unless I want to go to CR and get chopped up. I feel for you and anybody who's got stiffed it's hard enough to win and when lose you pay. I still say sit down and talk with with the guy and try to make some kind of arrangements. show him that 60% you were talking about and tell him he should pay that.
He made a business decision. So now you need to look at your options. Option A is to take it and move on. Option B is to do something about it. If this money isn't worth risking jail over, then I suggest you take Option A. Take it from a guy who has chosen Option B before and just move on.
Things are different now no doubt but I never stiffed anyone when I booked. I turned my business over to a friend and he never stiffed anyone either. IMO a bookie is much more unlikely to stiff than a degenerate player.
I'm aware that his logic is exactly what you say it is - backwards. It's just frustrating to hear excuses and have him try to turn the tables and insinuate that I did something wrong and because of that it's fine to stiff me.
Wrong message
I maybe needing ur services!!!
Lol... Hopefully I won't though
I honestly would lose little sleep over having my money stolen by an offshore compared to a local trying to stiff me.
First of all the guy is an Illegal Bookie, what is he going to do run to the cops if you do something? The guy is scum, please dont think you should consider his feelings or his reputation in any of the actions you take.
My local trying to stiff myself and my friends occurred in college when all 3 of us went on a big run during baseball season. The guy said he wouldnt pay but of course we see him at the bars flashing all the cash the losers were paying him. Trust me, after seeing that we got our money out of him. The guy acted like he was tough and connected to whatever bullshit mob he tried to claim, guess what it was all lies. If he was actually connected or whatever he would have enough smarts to not stiff anyone.
Less legal; start calling at weird times, day and night. Imply that you may seek someone in the "collection" business, or "waste management." Make him think you are considering an illegal method of collection.
Not legal. I think we all know this route. I can't advise you to do it, but people do.
Option one happens all the time when drug dealers get caught. They turn in their competitors to the police in exchange for a lesser sentence.
Option #1 I agree but everyone will know and he already said it's a small town. Without knowing all the particulars that's a tough call to make. He's still has to live there in this small town. I would however break his balls and tell him I want my money and I intend on getting it one way or another.
But we try to leave the local police out of it if at all possible.
Thanks for this post. I'm looking at option 1 right now to try and collect from a "local" that's stiffing.
Hindsight is obviously 20/20, but it would have changed my decision to ever work with him in the first place...Based on everything that you've said, sounds like your best bet it to just write it off as a loss at this point.
But yea if you know other players that use him, tell them to stop. Had a few stiffs after winning the first week, but nothing is worse than someone that collects from you for a while and then stiffs when you win.
I paid a few times and he paid a few times. This would have been his second time in a row paying and put me up substantially on him but apparently that isn't how he operates.