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newcombe
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love how big of a prick chris folwer is to dumb ass Craig James. not that I am a big fan of fowler but that is awful funny to see people clown james. I was curious on BT's thoughts as to if auburn was to lose a close one this weekend then should they still play for BCS champ game or let TCU? i really think auburn should still get the nod but at the same time I don't see auburn losing this week or even close.
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Please understand I am serious. If Auburn loses, it is hard for me to accept them being the best since they lost. I feel TCU could be the best we dont know. Sure they play in a weaker conf. but until they lose no one can say they are not the best. I do think as of now Aub-Ore are the best. No one has proved otherwise,but a loss would give TCU that arguement.
The right way? If you think they are the next best team outside of Oregon, you need to vote them #2.
They arent worthy of it being in the Mountain West shit conference. If Auburn loses a close game they should still be in game, or stanford.
Im tired of these shitty little conference teams thinking theyre up with the big boys.
College football sucks as a whole. Without a play-off there will never be a true champion.
They don't deserve to be there anyway. They played two tough games all year, one on the road and they got destroyed in that one. 4th best team in the Big 10.
Wisconsin and Ohio State played that much tougher a schedule????????
You can paint the picture any way you like but in the end the BCS sucks.
I maintain that if you took Oregon's team and put them in Boise and let them play in the WAC, people who currently rip on Boise and TCU would rip on them. It doesn't change them as a team but they would be ripped on for being frauds. The eye test says otherwise.
You are right, the BCS is a joke. Why anyone takes the BCS title game so seriously, I don't know. The top 10 teams played 7 tough road games and went 3-4 in those games. They are in the top 10 because they had managable schedules. 4 of those road games were played by Ohio St and Wisconsin unless you want to throw Iowa out of the mix as being a tough road game. If so, the top 10 teams then played 5 tough road games and went 1-4. Not exactly elite standards.
If the top SEC or Big-10 schools went and played other top of conference teams they would not be 11-0 either... so whats your point.
you realize the president wasnt just talking about the big ten conference right??
No wonder these two teams suck
Yep. And I also realize that he failed to check the strength of schedule numbers before he opened his yap.
Nice "FACTS"?? Oregon pounded the #5 team in the country and I do believe they have more than 10 wins!! AND if you would let the season finish Oregon will probably have 3 wins over 8 win teams and Stanford will probably have 2.... Not that your little facts mean anything.
Football is all about match-ups........ not A + B = C + (3 pad the record scrimmages) so therefore C is greater than A.
1) 3 way tie between OSU - W - MSU. MSU went 1-0, W went 1-0, and OSU 0-1 in games head to head
2) Winning percentage of these 3 opponents: MSU Highest - W second - OSU 3rd
3) Opponent's opponents winning percentage: MSU Highest - OSU 2nd - W 3rd
4) Wins against ranked teams: MSU and W 1, OSU 0
Michigan State beats W by 10 pts
How is it justified that the team within the same league who played the toughest schedule of the 3 teams tied, and whose opponent's opponents had the highest winning percentage, and who beat the only team they played invovled in the tie by double digits, and who had as many wins versus ranked teams as one of the teams, and more wins than the other, IS SOMEHOW RANKED LOWER BY THE BCS? College football sucks.
both @ Michigan: Wisconsin by 20, MSU by 17
NW (Wisconsin home, MSU road): Wisco by 47, MSU by 8 (and yes, I know Persa was out for Wisco game, but still)
both @ Iowa: Wisconsin wins by 1, MSU loses by 31
Purdue (MSU at home, Wisconsin road): Wisconsin wins by 21, MSU by 4
Minnesota (both at home): Wisconsin wins by 18, MSU by 23
Also, MSU had the easier Big Ten schedule by not playing Ohio St (not their fault, but still true)
Also, MSU lost later in the season
Now, I understand the arguement that MSU beat Wisconsin (at home) by 10 and if I was an MSU fan or proponent, I'd be making the same arguement. But, as illustrated above, Wisconsin has a good arguement to be in the Rose Bowl as well. There are a lot of reasons cfb frusturates me, but I don't think Wisco going to Pasadena over MSU and/or OSU is anywhere near the top of the list
Chisox
I really think the Pac-10 is the best this year and Oregon and Stanford just may be the 2 best teams in football. But we will never know if this true and you'll never know if Arkansas is either because the system sucks.
pac 10 surely not the best conference my friend. I saw USC give some teams hell in that conference and then lose to notre dame?
Yes with Mitch Mustain (SEC starting QB that could not even break 3rd team at USC) at QB because Barkley was injured.
By the way, didn't Nebraska lose @home to a Texas team that got rolled at home by a mediocre Pac-10 team UCLA..... So, does that mean the big-12 and Nebraska are bad conference, does that mean UCLA is better than Nebraska, I think not. newc, you cannot make analogies like that.
I am NOT saying the Pac-10 is the best conference. But what I do know is that the Pac-10 only plays 33% of their over-all games vs teams ranked #41 or higher as opposed to the SEC- 44%, Big-10-56% and Big-12 49%.
Conferences playing Teams ranked higher than #76... Pac-10=4 games, big-10=35 games, Big-12=18 games and the SEC= 29 games.
I throw those numbers out to show that the argument is not a simple apples to apples comparison.
can't wait to get those political threads back open to, as we were also very close to changing each others minds and coming to a group consensus about the way things should be done.........
P.S. the Big 10 is a joke.....
LOL. always coming back with huskers and big 12 when not for a freaking second did I mention that at all. you amaze me everytime and I knew I should've bit my tongue before chiming back in to this thread. watch the huskers win the shitty big XII this weekend my friend, but that wouldn't mean much since it is a shitty conference.
ps. didn't notre dame have their starting qb and rb out in that game too and completely dominated powerhouse USC?
I simply said you cannot make analogies like that.