Hoping Heat to win title
lakers22
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At +220 will end my fucking horribly sick run of bad luck. I know i keep bitching/venting thank god im betting small but fuck me w/mlb
Bet heat in early jan for 1500 to win title after knicks swept them in a home and home
Bet heat in early jan for 1500 to win title after knicks swept them in a home and home
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I was worried about the pacers from the start of the series. Hoping its over in gm6
Lets not forget a team G.S who can score gave SAS everything they could handle they swept a team like Memphis because Memphis isn't a scoring team and the one player that leads them in scoring had a terrible series and from what I seen it effected them defensively by not getting back and stopping the ball and giving SAS way to many easy baskets. Also the body Language on Memphis was like they were defeated before the game started.
Now the SAS are ranked 21st in rebounding and 18th on the defensive side. They're out rebounded by 1.3 a game this isn't Indy who's number 1 in rebounding in the league so the concern isn't there for Miami as it is against Indy. Indy could play and I would take Indy over the SAS in the finals if it came to that. Indy has made it to the Eastern finals without Granger They need a piece or two on the bench and this team will be very scary next year.
I have to disagree Chi6
The spurs are fools gold don't forget the G.ST series and I really hope your right that they're barely favored over SAS because right now they're -220 to win it all and the spurs are +220. I would love to lay a small number.
You would be insane to do this, sit on the Heat ticket
I believe you get $3300 but then you have $1900 invested so your profit is $1400 if the Heat win. First off +185 is a bad price at this time there's +220 around. 2nd why even think of hedging a small bet like this. I know it's all relevant but in your heart do you really thing SAS can beat Miami 4x's Good Luck with whatever you do it's your cash.
I just wanted to clarify-I have them barely favoroed over the Spurs because of home court; the books will still have them around -200 IMO if they win Monday.
Lebron will have to do this mostly by himself, Bosh is way to inconsistent and Wade (because of some combination of injury and age) simply isn't the same player anymore.
Sorry, didn't mean to hijack the thread, but just saw OT's comments and wanted to engage in the convo. I hope for your sake the Heat make the finals, I think they will pull out a close game 7. But if the Spurs are around +200 I would play them in the finals (not as a "hedge" but because I feel there is value in playing them at that price).
Best,
Chisox
This is just a silly comment OT. It's obvious you don't pay much attention to the Spurs. They've won 5 straight at Indy, swept the season series against Indy (including a 22 point blowout at home and rallying back from a 17 point deficit on the road to win by 7). I just don't get hyperbolic comments like this one. You picked the Grizz over the Spurs and they promptly got swept and you attempt to justify it by saying Randolph being shut down (or, "had a terrible series") somehow infected the rest of the team? Who was responsible for shutting him down? Now you're saying you'd honestly pick the Pacers over the Spurs in a 7-game series? I'll tell you what, if a reputable poster wants to hold our cash in escrow, I'd be willing to take that bet if it should come to it... Though let's be honest, no chance Stern allows that to happen.
This.
As I said in another thread, don't be surprised if the officiating crew is some combination of Joey Crawford, Tim Donaghy, Anna Kournikova, Pat Riley, The Lady Who Flipped Off Joakim Noah in the Bulls series & Alonzo Mourning... Stern will pull no punches in this Game 7. He's checking out TV revenue projections for both series and slowly turning into Mr. Burns from the Simpsons - just waiting to release the hounds.
I think your putting to much on regular season results which really is meaning less. Your comparing Apples and Oranges when you compare Regular season and playoffs in the NBA. unless you know everybody was playing, did the scheduling have any effect Etc you can't say Team A was 5-0 against Team B therefore they should win the series. The Spurs have become a little more of a running team this year then in the past and they don't throw t in to Duncan like they use to and if Indy did make it to the finals they would turn them into a half court team just like they're doing to the Heat.
It's true Memphis played terrible and never seemed to get back in time on Defense leading to easy baskets and if Indy were to play the Spurs that would not be the case and as for rebounding they out rebound everyone and they defend the perimeter excellent. The thing that bother me most about that Memphis series was the body language of Memphis when things weren't going there way and they looked defeated every time they were down low and couldn't get the ball in the basket. Getting back to if Indy played the Spurs The SAS rebound like the Heat and would be in trouble just like the Heat only they wouldn't have Lebron I'm not sold on this SAS. " no chance Stern allows that to happen" So you really think there's a conspiracy of who they want in the finals. I think your way under estimating the Pacers as a team. It's to bad it's most likely they won't beat the Heat
on the road and it's looking like a Heat Vs Spurs and if both teams play at there best the Spurs will be at a disadvantage and as far as betting me you'll get a better price at the book. Tell me about a small school somewhere off the radar and I'll say shit happens all the time but tell me about Game 7 in the NBA finals on National TV and your telling me that there's no way that Indy will be allowed to win this game. That's what's a little silly.
kane
That's sort of my point, six games played and the Heat have not gotten the calls go their way like you would expect. Indy got some calls go their way last night like you said, but also the end of game four, Lebron's sixth foul and the travel on Wade, If Stern has his hand in this then those two calls don't happen. If I'm Frank Vogel I would have been expecting Miami to get all the calls before the series started, but right now I have to think he's thrilled (and maybe even a little surprised) by how the series has been officiated.
Obi
Why do rational people believe in conspiracy theories?
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/26/ma...anted=all&_r=0
No they wouldn't be favorite of course not you have a veteran team with one of the best coaches in the league and of course they have rings to back them up. But I believe that Indy would would dominate the glass and if they could limit there turnovers they could beat the SAS, Besides Parker and an aging Duncan who still can play with less minutes and not under the basket against these studs what do they have that makes people believe in this team. They have a brick layer by the name of Ginobili. They do have a deep bench and they use it. Spurs won't be getting rings this year. If they do 5 minutes after they win I'll say I was Wrong if they don't I want you to do the same. I also don't believe I gave the impression that they would kill the spurs but again I believe they would beat them in a long series.
I understand what your saying I just believe if they use the same game plan as with the Heat they can beat the SAS. Don't think will get the chance but you never know. One thing I'm interested in seeing will this long layoff help or hurt the spurs in game one at least.
I actually hope we get to see it. I, for one, could care less about entertainment value as the general public would by seeing the heat in the finals as I would rather see the underdog pacers take down goliath. won't happen though...
No disrespect taken, OT. Despite being an OKC fan due to my Longhorn bias w/ Durant, I've been a Spurs season ticket holder for several years and I'm pretty familiar with this team and feel they'd space the Pacers out to death. Parker would represent a significant upgrade over Chalmers at PG and the big duo of Duncan/Splitter certainly tops the Bosh/Haslem duo. The Spurs don't have a Lebron, obviously, but their system is one that would give and has given the Pacers fits. Maybe we'll get the opportunity to see starting June 6th...
With respect to my "Stern would never let that happen" comment, it was meant to be taken in half-jest. On one hand, the NBA is absolutely praying for Spurs - Heat as there is a compelling narrative either way you look at it: If you're a casual fan and find the Spurs and Duncan to be "boring" then you're rooting for LeBron heroics and a possible peak into the GOAT argument. If you're an avid fan, you love the ball movement and acceptance of roles on the Spurs and frankly "The Decision" still gnaws at many people so they'll be rooting against LeBron more than rooting for the Spurs. Point being, there will be two distinct narratives in a Spurs - Heat Finals that would generate fantastic ratings and give the NBA an international boost: Best player on earth and the Big 3 going for a Repeat OR Spurs look to redefine the term "dynasty" by spreading out 5 championships over 14 seasons...
On the other hand, while I don't think Stern is issuing directives to the officials to secure a Spurs - Heat Finals, it would be naive to think that the league wouldn't employ some generous home-court officiating to better position them to get the series that would boost their brand. It's not like they're beyond reproach when it comes to officiating quagmires or questionable ethics (see Lakers - Hornets trade veto; 2002 Game 6 Western Conference Finals; 2006 Heat - Mavs Finals; Tim Donaghy; Joey Crawford vs. Spurs). With the increased skepticism and the overall accessibility to the game today it would be much, much tougher to pull off anything of the aforementioned 2002 Game 6 WCF variety (even Donaghy admitted this game was rigged) but the stakes are the same: in 2002 the League had to be sweating bullets at the thought of a Nets-Kings Finals and there's no doubt Stern and company are at least rooting for a Heat-Spurs Finals.
OT, the Heat had nine days off after beating Milw and lost gm 1 at home to the Bulls, then they had seven days off before playing the Pacers in gm 1 also at home, and they needed a Lebron layup at the buzzer to win in overtime. The Spurs swept the Lakers, then had nine days off before playing the Warriors at home, they won by two in overtime after making a miraculous comeback in the fourth quarter. While I realize it's a very small sample size, athletes just like the rest of us are creatures of habit, throughout the season these guys are used to playing and practicing within a set schedule, now all of a sudden they don't play for a week and it messes up their timing. We all have certain things we do on a regular basis, waking up at the same time every day, going to work at the same time, coming home at the same time, eating dinner, working out, etc. Now imagine if all of a sudden your schedule changes, you eat at a different hour, work out on a different day, etc. I think anyone would be affected by not following the same pattern as you're used to, athletes are no different, I can't imagine the Spurs firing on all cylinders in gm 1 of the finals. I know it's a small sample size, but having this much time off is something that only happens a couple of times during the playoffs if at all. If anyone can overcome a long layoff and have his team ready Pop would be the guy, but it's gonna be tough for SA in the opening game of the finals imo.
Co-signed.