The rest of my plays as Thursday approaches. Should be it (already have almost 3/4ths of my bankroll in play), unless something really moves into range (though I'm sure I'll have some props on individual games)...
Russia under 5 total goals (-140) 1.4 units to win 1 unit
Colombia over 5 total goals (-130) 1.3 units to win 1 unit
Morocco last in Group B (+170) 1 unit to win 1.7 units
Croatia last in Group D (+640) .5 units to win 3.2 units
Switzerland last in Group E (+350) .5 units to win 1.75 units
South Korea last in Group F (-130) 1.3 units to win 1 unit
Total Tournament Corner Kicks - Over 660.5 (+170) 1 unit to win 1.7 units
Total Tournament Bookings - Under 230.5 (+135) 1 unit to win 1.35 units
Mexico -.5 South Korea (-116) 1.74 units to win 1.5 units
Peru -.5 Australia (+110) 1 unit to win 1.1 units
With the World Cup costing Russia over 11 Billion $$$, and given the 2 countries' economic and political ties, I seriously have to consider the fact that Mohammed Bin Salman will fix the first game and let the Russians 'win'. For all the prestige he was supposed to get, fielding the worst Russian team in decades has to be deflating and embarrasing for Putin. Can't see MBS rubbing it in.
Price on Saudi Arabia is definitely too high right now.
Will end up with a bunch of "no actions", but all are mispriced...
Artem Dzyuba no goals scored (-170) 1.7 units to win 1 unit
Aleksei-Miranchuk no goals scored (-240) 1.2 units to win .5 units
Denis Cheryshev no goals scored (-325) 1.625 units to win .5 units
Aleksandr Erokhin no goals scored (-485) 1.455 units to win .3 units
Anton-Miranchuk no goals scored (-550) 1.65 units to win .3 units
Muhannad Asiri no goals scored (-925) 1.85 units to win .2 units
Can't go worse than yesterday, goes in 10 minutes...
Andre Silva no goals scored (-440) 1.76 units to win .4 units
Gelson Martins no goals scored (-900) 1.8 units to win .2 units
Ricardo Quaresma no goals scored (-800) 1.6 units to win .2 units
Marco Asensio no goals scored (-600) 1.2 units to win .2 units
Iago Aspas no goals scored (-300) 1.2 units to win .4 units
Rodrigo Moreno no goals scored (-230) 1.15 units to win .5 units
how many different sports do you bet?
how many plays do you get out of say a card of 10 games normally?
Ill follow some others in a variety of sports, but the only sports I originate (outside of a random play here or there) are international soccer and NCAA basketball (and with that, I took the year off with basketball). I literally had about 75% of my total bankroll tied up in soccer games earlier this week (including credit), so I couldnt play much else right now if I even wanted to.
As far as number of plays in a card, it all depends. If we are talking African qualifying, maybe 2% of the games. North American games, maybe 40%. World Cup, probably about 5 things per game between props, futures, straight plays, etc.
France HT/France FT (-115) 1.15 units to win 1 unit
Saudi Arabia +2.5 Uruguay (-134) 2.01 units to win 1.5 units
Spain/Iran under 2.5, 3 (-111) 1.11 units to win 1 unit
Best Asian Team - Iran (+300) 1 unit to win 3 units
In the post today the VSIN pick is for colombia to win ....three way betting , what does that mean , i assume to win ml ...draw ml and not sure about the other one , is it minus a goal ???
In the post today the VSIN pick is for colombia to win ....three way betting , what does that mean , i assume to win ml ...draw ml and not sure about the other one , is it minus a goal ???
thanks
Typically when they talk about a 3-way line it includes the draw, so the 3 "ways" would be Columbia, Japan, or draw (vs a straight ML bet where draw would be a push). In this case it sounds like they are saying to take Columbia on the 3-way line. Which is the same as Columbia -.5
Typically when they talk about a 3-way line it includes the draw, so the 3 "ways" would be Columbia, Japan, or draw (vs a straight ML bet where draw would be a push). In this case it sounds like they are saying to take Columbia on the 3-way line. Which is the same as Columbia -.5
so tommy , colombia lost 2-1 yesterday at -155 , what would the other 2 bets losses be , i see the -1/2 at -150 and draw at +265 which is another -100 ....so in a three way bet they would be -4.05 ....would that be right ?
so tommy , colombia lost 2-1 yesterday at -155 , what would the other 2 bets losses be , i see the -1/2 at -150 and draw at +265 which is another -100 ....so in a three way bet they would be -4.05 ....would that be right ?
thanks
I dont really understand the question, but Im guessing its because youre a little confused on what the 3-way bet is...its just the same as any other bet, just that youve got a third option (the draw). So with you bet Team A to win, team B to win, or the game to end in a tie.
So if they were -155 to win and they didnt win, you lose 155 for every 100 bet to win.
I got it ...just dont understand why thats a smart way to bet ..
Col to win lost -155
japen wins +130
draw lost -100 at +265
thank you
Thats not an accurate portrayal of the lines ( at least lines that anyone sharp is playing). Japan would be a bunch higher. The hold percentages on the wagers themselves shouldnt change much betting the three way lines, it just gives additional options on the game.
Thats not an accurate portrayal of the lines ( at least lines that anyone sharp is playing). Japan would be a bunch higher. The hold percentages on the wagers themselves shouldnt change much betting the three way lines, it just gives additional options on the game.
I got you but thats the lines they will use if they ever post records and units won/lost
I think for us pure American sport guys, that 3 way crap is weird. I think the main reason they do it is because so many games are a draw that so many tickets would cancel and that would suck for bettors and the books. Wins and losses are still the same in the US sense. I mean a 3way bet is basically a 2 way bet but with a -.5 point to every bet and of course you get paid better for taking the -.5.
China +150
US +270
Draw +190
is basically in an American odds world the same as
China -.5 +150
US -.5 +270
Draw +.5 +190
and dont even get started on that Asian handicap stuff, I mean with that Asian handicap -.25 gives you half your money back if your team loses by 1 and all kinds of for us different stuff. here is a link to a table for Asian if you are so interested which I am not, LOL https://www.betshoot.com/asian-handicap-betting/
I think for us pure American sport guys, that 3 way crap is weird. I think the main reason they do it is because so many games are a draw that so many tickets would cancel and that would suck for bettors and the books.
Europeans think American betting is weird too, no love lost there. European betting has so many more options, that US betting looks simple. To wit:
- Draw No Bet
- Both Teams To Score
- Exact Score
- HT/FT
- Double Chance
- Win To Nil
Anybody would be better off by trying to understand where both types of betting come from and use that to their advantage.
and dont even get started on that Asian handicap stuff, I mean with that Asian handicap -.25 gives you half your money back if your team loses by 1 and all kinds of for us different stuff. here is a link to a table for Asian if you are so interested which I am not, LOL https://www.betshoot.com/asian-handicap-betting/
Asian Handicap -0.25 means half the bet is on 'PK' and half the bet is on '-0.5'.
You would lose half and push the other half when the game ends in a draw, not when it loses by 1. In that case AH -0.25 loses everything.
(just to clarify)
vsin expert sucks , gill alexander ...this guy cant pick his nose, now today his sharp play was , and i dont understand if you were going to make a 3-way bet why say it like this.................the play , Iceland +160 to win in 3-way betting.....of course they lost -100 , nigeria won +190 and the draw lost -100, wouldn't say the bet more like iceland/nigeria 3 way bet ???
vsin expert sucks , gill alexander ...this guy cant pick his nose, now today his sharp play was , and i dont understand if you were going to make a 3-way bet why say it like this.................the play , Iceland +160 to win in 3-way betting.....of course they lost -100 , nigeria won +190 and the draw lost -100, wouldn't say the bet more like iceland/nigeria 3 way bet ???
His bet was Iceland +160, that's it. He didn't bet nigeria or the draw (those are the other 2 options on the 3 way line). So he lost 1 bet, Iceland +160. The best way to say it would be to say "we are taking iceland +160 on the 3-way line."
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As opposed to saying "We are taking iceland -109 on the moneyline." The difference being, on the 3-way line you lose if it's a draw, and on the moneyline you push if it's a draw
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Russia under 5 total goals (-140) 1.4 units to win 1 unit
Colombia over 5 total goals (-130) 1.3 units to win 1 unit
Morocco last in Group B (+170) 1 unit to win 1.7 units
Croatia last in Group D (+640) .5 units to win 3.2 units
Switzerland last in Group E (+350) .5 units to win 1.75 units
South Korea last in Group F (-130) 1.3 units to win 1 unit
Total Tournament Corner Kicks - Over 660.5 (+170) 1 unit to win 1.7 units
Total Tournament Bookings - Under 230.5 (+135) 1 unit to win 1.35 units
Mexico -.5 South Korea (-116) 1.74 units to win 1.5 units
Peru -.5 Australia (+110) 1 unit to win 1.1 units
Price on Saudi Arabia is definitely too high right now.
Anyway,
Best of luck with all your plays Tommy!!
Artem Dzyuba no goals scored (-170) 1.7 units to win 1 unit
Aleksei-Miranchuk no goals scored (-240) 1.2 units to win .5 units
Denis Cheryshev no goals scored (-325) 1.625 units to win .5 units
Aleksandr Erokhin no goals scored (-485) 1.455 units to win .3 units
Anton-Miranchuk no goals scored (-550) 1.65 units to win .3 units
Muhannad Asiri no goals scored (-925) 1.85 units to win .2 units
Andre Silva no goals scored (-440) 1.76 units to win .4 units
Gelson Martins no goals scored (-900) 1.8 units to win .2 units
Ricardo Quaresma no goals scored (-800) 1.6 units to win .2 units
Marco Asensio no goals scored (-600) 1.2 units to win .2 units
Iago Aspas no goals scored (-300) 1.2 units to win .4 units
Rodrigo Moreno no goals scored (-230) 1.15 units to win .5 units
how many plays do you get out of say a card of 10 games normally?
Ill follow some others in a variety of sports, but the only sports I originate (outside of a random play here or there) are international soccer and NCAA basketball (and with that, I took the year off with basketball). I literally had about 75% of my total bankroll tied up in soccer games earlier this week (including credit), so I couldnt play much else right now if I even wanted to.
As far as number of plays in a card, it all depends. If we are talking African qualifying, maybe 2% of the games. North American games, maybe 40%. World Cup, probably about 5 things per game between props, futures, straight plays, etc.
little unlucky on Egypt but still a good result with Iran and then Spain over
now that you free'd up some credit anything you would add in the group stages?
Some more plays...
France HT/France FT (-115) 1.15 units to win 1 unit
Saudi Arabia +2.5 Uruguay (-134) 2.01 units to win 1.5 units
Spain/Iran under 2.5, 3 (-111) 1.11 units to win 1 unit
Best Asian Team - Iran (+300) 1 unit to win 3 units
Germany -1.5 South Korea (-138) 2.76 units to win 2 units
It's my favorite game of the group stage (now that we know it will mean something for Germany, and South Korea is as crappy as I thought).
Belgium/England under 2.5 (-115) 2.3 units to win 2 units
Belgium/England to draw (+240) 1 unit to win 2.4 units
thanks
thanks in advance.
Typically when they talk about a 3-way line it includes the draw, so the 3 "ways" would be Columbia, Japan, or draw (vs a straight ML bet where draw would be a push). In this case it sounds like they are saying to take Columbia on the 3-way line. Which is the same as Columbia -.5
Not really. Was close to playing Poland TT under, so lean Senegal/under, but ultimately passed.
thank you
thanks
I dont really understand the question, but Im guessing its because youre a little confused on what the 3-way bet is...its just the same as any other bet, just that youve got a third option (the draw). So with you bet Team A to win, team B to win, or the game to end in a tie.
So if they were -155 to win and they didnt win, you lose 155 for every 100 bet to win.
Col to win lost -155
japen wins +130
draw lost -100 at +265
thank you
any thoughts on Iceland total tomorrow.
thanks again.
I got you but thats the lines they will use if they ever post records and units won/lost
China +150
US +270
Draw +190
is basically in an American odds world the same as
China -.5 +150
US -.5 +270
Draw +.5 +190
and dont even get started on that Asian handicap stuff, I mean with that Asian handicap -.25 gives you half your money back if your team loses by 1 and all kinds of for us different stuff. here is a link to a table for Asian if you are so interested which I am not, LOL
https://www.betshoot.com/asian-handicap-betting/
Europeans think American betting is weird too, no love lost there. European betting has so many more options, that US betting looks simple. To wit:
- Draw No Bet
- Both Teams To Score
- Exact Score
- HT/FT
- Double Chance
- Win To Nil
Anybody would be better off by trying to understand where both types of betting come from and use that to their advantage.
Asian Handicap -0.25 means half the bet is on 'PK' and half the bet is on '-0.5'.
You would lose half and push the other half when the game ends in a draw, not when it loses by 1. In that case AH -0.25 loses everything.
(just to clarify)
His bet was Iceland +160, that's it. He didn't bet nigeria or the draw (those are the other 2 options on the 3 way line). So he lost 1 bet, Iceland +160. The best way to say it would be to say "we are taking iceland +160 on the 3-way line."
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As opposed to saying "We are taking iceland -109 on the moneyline." The difference being, on the 3-way line you lose if it's a draw, and on the moneyline you push if it's a draw
Mexico wins and South Korea no goals (+170) 1 unit to win 1.7 units