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RAS 2015-16 College Basketball

RightAngleRightAngle Admin
edited December 2015 in Sports Betting
Dear Clients,


The 2015-16 College Basketball season tips off November 13. We will be offering a CBB 2nd half service consisting of plays on both sides and TV totals from day one until the end of the season, including all post season tournaments.

We will not be offering any CBB full game sides or totals for the foreseeable future.

The 2nd half service is available exclusively on our customizable credit system. You can choose to receive only 2h sides, only 2h totals, or both, on the specific days and time slots that you wish. The service can also be paused entirely or turned back on at any time.

There are no set release times or release warnings for 2nd half plays. Any time a CBB game goes to half, there is a possibility of a play being released. As a result the release lines typically will not move quite as fast or dramatically as they do on our full game releases that the market is expecting.

We are hopeful this will result in a product that can be utilized successfully by a higher percentage of clients than in the past.

Credits can now be purchased on our order page at www.Handicapper.net/order.php

Please do not hesitate to contact me with any questions or comments.


Cordially,


Edward
Right Angle Sports
www.Handicapper.net
[email protected]
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Comments

  • JMU_DegenerateJMU_Degenerate Senior Member
    edited October 2015
    With the credit system followers pay for what they get so there is little value-based risk, however last year you had only 36 2h plays. Does that seem like a reasonable estimation for this year or do you expect to offer more plays than this?
    Obviously, this is nearly impossible to predict, but was just wondering if you had an estimate in mind.
  • 2sportguy2sportguy Senior Member
    edited October 2015
    RightAngle wrote: »
    Dear Clients,


    The 2015-16 College Basketball season tips off November 13. We will be offering a CBB 2nd half service consisting of plays on both sides and TV totals from day one until the end of the season, including all post season tournaments.

    We will not be offering any CBB full game sides or totals for the foreseeable future.

    The 2nd half service is available exclusively on our customizable credit system. You can choose to receive only 2h sides, only 2h totals, or both, on the specific days and time slots that you wish. The service can also be paused entirely or turned back on at any time.

    There are no set release times or release warnings for 2nd half plays. Any time a CBB game goes to half, there is a possibility of a play being released. As a result the release lines typically will not move quite as fast or dramatically as they do on our full game releases that the market is expecting.

    We are hopeful this will result in a product that can be utilized successfully by a higher percentage of clients than in the past.

    Credits can now be purchased on our order page at www.Handicapper.net/order.php

    Please do not hesitate to contact me with any questions or comments.


    Cordially,


    Edward
    Right Angle Sports
    www.Handicapper.net
    [email protected]

    Wow didnt see this one coming.
  • RightAngleRightAngle Admin
    edited October 2015
    JMU_Degenerate wrote: »
    With the credit system followers pay for what they get so there is little value-based risk, however last year you had only 36 2h plays. Does that seem like a reasonable estimation for this year or do you expect to offer more plays than this?
    Obviously, this is nearly impossible to predict, but was just wondering if you had an estimate in mind.

    It is hard to predict, but we think we can get somewhere between 100-200 plays.
  • JMU_DegenerateJMU_Degenerate Senior Member
    edited October 2015
    Awesome - Thank you Ed.
  • golfer1000golfer1000 Senior Member
    edited October 2015
    For fuck sakes
  • underwrapsunderwraps Senior Member
    edited October 2015
    golfer1000 wrote: »
    For fuck sakes

    LOL :laughing:
  • 2sportguy2sportguy Senior Member
    edited October 2015
    Cmon dude........
  • golfer1000golfer1000 Senior Member
    edited October 2015
    Why hasnt price gone down if this second half only? Doesn't really make since to me. You have half the edge (most likely) than you do on full game and price is the same?
  • 2sportguy2sportguy Senior Member
    edited October 2015
    Frees up your entire afternoon so you can go work on your short game.
  • JMU_DegenerateJMU_Degenerate Senior Member
    edited October 2015
    golfer1000 wrote: »
    For fuck sakes
    Very insightful post Golfer. I hadn't thought about it from that perspective.
  • golfer1000golfer1000 Senior Member
    edited October 2015
    2sportguy wrote: »
    Frees up your entire afternoon so you can go work on your short game.

    I need to putt, my putting blows!!!!!!
  • 2sportguy2sportguy Senior Member
    edited October 2015
    Yes because you are spending your afternoons turning your ass cheeks into leather.

    Thats 'bout to change son.
  • jmjm Senior Member
    edited October 2015
    Not sure my opinion yet. The full game releases were difficult for me to get, but liked the fact they were set at a window each day. I love the idea of 2H plays, but not crazy about having to update the credit/service system everytime i take a shower or go to bed. Guess I'll just have to add it to my checklist of showing, viagra, turn off notifications.

    Like the creative thought here by Ed. Big question is, are they stopping their analysis on full games and going private?
  • golfer1000golfer1000 Senior Member
    edited October 2015
    jm wrote: »
    Not sure my opinion yet. The full game releases were difficult for me to get, but liked the fact they were set at a window each day. I love the idea of 2H plays, but not crazy about having to update the credit/service system everytime i take a shower or go to bed. Guess I'll just have to add it to my checklist of showing, viagra, turn off notifications.


    Like the creative thought here by Ed. Big question is, are they stopping their analysis on full games and going private?


    Fuck yea they have gone private
  • RonbetsRonbets Senior Member
    edited October 2015
    Edward,
    I see you took my suggestion into consideration. Not that I had anything to do with the move.
  • underwrapsunderwraps Senior Member
    edited October 2015
    golfer1000 wrote: »
    Fuck yea they have gone private

    Why weren't you invited? don't they know about your inheritance?
  • jimmymojimmymo Senior Member
    edited October 2015
    Ed, have you ever considered offing interests in a hedge fund type product where people can buy shares in a pool and you take a cut of profits (20%)? You could even permit periodic withdrawals

    You could release the "action" for each day after the Fund has made the wagers
  • underwrapsunderwraps Senior Member
    edited October 2015
    On another note what does the word "Private" even mean in this business? The plays eventually have to go in at some point with a book and most of the times if not all the time they come in first with Off screens and locals.
  • jimmymojimmymo Senior Member
    edited October 2015
    underwraps wrote: »
    On another note what does the word "Private" even mean in this business? .

    Private means they find a few big-baller backers, pool a bankroll and hammer plays and get paid by winning --- as opposed to releasing them to clients and getting paid for the investment advice
  • underwrapsunderwraps Senior Member
    edited October 2015
    jimmymo wrote: »
    Private means they find a few big-baller backers, pool a bankroll and hammer plays and get paid by winning --- as opposed to releasing them to clients and getting paid for the investment advice

    Are you trying to say that when they sold plays to clients as a service that they didn't wager on those same plays?
    Why not get paid for both instead of one? IMO I don't think they need any backers especially in a small market as College hoops.
  • jimmymojimmymo Senior Member
    edited October 2015
    Forgetting one major rule.....always better to risk other people's money
  • underwrapsunderwraps Senior Member
    edited October 2015
    jimmymo wrote: »
    Forgetting one major rule.....always better to risk other people's money

    True, I did forget that :)
  • turksureturksure Senior Member
    edited October 2015
    I myself think it's a good move for whatever reason, no one else has a 2nd half only service so RAS can focus on the product and beat those books. Actually it's more work for the RAS staff; more staff hours being the main product at all hours for releases and not just side product offering. Just a few thoughts.
  • golfer1000golfer1000 Senior Member
    edited October 2015
    turksure wrote: »
    I myself think it's a good move for whatever reason, no one else has a 2nd half only service so RAS can focus on the product and beat those books. Actually it's more work for the RAS staff; more staff hours being the main product at all hours for releases and not just side product offering. Just a few thoughts.

    Yea...... No one else bets second halfs
  • golfer1000golfer1000 Senior Member
    edited October 2015
    underwraps wrote: »
    Why weren't you invited? don't they know about your inheritance?

    Lol I guess not
  • CoolsCools Senior Member
    edited October 2015
    turksure wrote: »
    Actually it's more work for the RAS staff; more staff hours being the main product at all hours for releases and not just side product offering. Just a few thoughts.

    I'm not so sure it isn't double the work. If RAS has gone private for full sides and totals, which is very likely, then they will be doing twice the work. We know they didn't put in the time they should for halfers in the past. Ed has even admitted to not delivering as many halftime plays as they should. On a given Saturday of college basketball, if you have a team of professional handicappers following 90 percent of the games then there should be at least 10 halftime plays. We never saw that volume in the past.

    So the question becomes, will they be devoting the same amount of time to halftime plays as in the past while still primarily focusing on the private service or will they ramp up their halftime efforts? If there are 100 plays as Ed mentioned above that is certainly ramping up, but are you losing quality of handicapping if there is a private service that requires more attention?
  • golfer1000golfer1000 Senior Member
    edited October 2015
    Cools wrote: »
    I'm not so sure it isn't double the work. If RAS has gone private for full sides and totals, which is very likely, then they will be doing twice the work. We know they didn't put in the time they should for halfers in the past. Ed has even admitted to not delivering as many halftime plays as they should. On a given Saturday of college basketball, if you have a team of professional handicappers following 90 percent of the games then there should be at least 10 halftime plays. We never saw that volume in the past.

    So the question becomes, will they be devoting the same amount of time to halftime plays as in the past while still primarily focusing on the private service or will they ramp up their halftime efforts? If there are 100 plays as Ed mentioned above that is certainly ramping up, but are you losing quality of handicapping if there is a private service that requires more attention?

    They lost my business
  • HatHat Senior Member
    edited October 2015
    I would be shocked if Edward would go private after announcing this 2nd half offering. I really look forward to it and see great potential.
  • turksureturksure Senior Member
    edited October 2015
    golfer1000 wrote: »
    Yea...... No one else bets second halfs
    good job golfer, be a pain in the ass
  • duritodurito Senior Member
    edited October 2015
    sitting in front of your computer waiting for every ncaab 2h all year is an incredible time constraint. i do it every year, it's tiring. seems like it'd be a pretty big commitment for most people (all day on weekends, at night during the week, etc)
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