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BetOnline NBA limits

jzjz Member
edited January 2014 in Sports Betting
hey guys, does anyone know how much BetOnline will take on a side before Pinnacle or Cris put out their numbers? I bet into their openers but have a small bankroll so haven't been able to find out for myself. Appreciate any insight, thanks.

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  • duritodurito Senior Member
    edited January 2014
    $250.
  • underwrapsunderwraps Senior Member
    edited January 2014
    mine has always been 200, but yes most people have 250
  • jzjz Member
    edited January 2014
    thanks Durito and underwraps -- i've been lurking around the forum for a couple months now and you two are pretty sharp. This is my first year betting NBA and i found if i put in a decent amount of time each day studying teams, its fairly easy to beat the close betting into BO openers.
  • CirclejerkCirclejerk Senior Member
    edited January 2014
    FWIW - Mine has always been 250
    GL
  • duritodurito Senior Member
    edited January 2014
    You can check the limits at BOL on anything, just try to put in a really large bet bigger than your balance. It will show what the limit is.
  • underwrapsunderwraps Senior Member
    edited January 2014
    Yup, when you put the mouse over the Red warning symbol a paragraph opens stating the limit
  • BigKahunaBigKahuna Banned
    edited January 2014
    Just out of curiosity . Why do you guys use online books instead of locals ?
    They offer almost zero limits, getting money is like pulling teeth, their lines are not any better, could lead to tax issues, why not use locals and not have to put up dollars either ?
    Just curious nothing more.
  • newcombenewcombe Senior Member
    edited January 2014
    im guessing BK that most of these guys have a few locals along with multiple online books to maximize the ability I acquire value in each and every play. Locals aren't always the perfect situation as it sounds yours may be. they will screw someone as quickly as anyone else.
  • groovinmahoovingroovinmahoovin Senior Member
    edited January 2014
    My ratio of good experiences to stiffings is far higher with offshore books than locals. It's all about risk/reward.
  • duritodurito Senior Member
    edited January 2014
    BigKahuna wrote: »
    Just out of curiosity . Why do you guys use online books instead of locals ?
    They offer almost zero limits, getting money is like pulling teeth, their lines are not any better, could lead to tax issues, why not use locals and not have to put up dollars either ?
    Just curious nothing more.

    Been stiffed for a lot more by locals than offshore. Had tons of bookies through the years but not any left at the moment. I'm set up outside the USA so moving money is easy with Skrill/Neteller. Taxes are the same either way.
  • duritodurito Senior Member
    edited January 2014
    Limits are higher on most stuff as well.
  • BigKahunaBigKahuna Banned
    edited January 2014
    Wow I guess I am lucky. 30+ years never been stiffed for $1 , even when I was turned off they handed me an envelope and said don't call me again.
    Offshore lead to a big tax issue for me, that I would never ever repeat.
    Interesting sharing different experiences.
  • duritodurito Senior Member
    edited January 2014
    You owe taxes on winnings either way. I guess it's easier to hide a bag of cash, but this my only income so I am declaring it all anyway.
  • golfer1000golfer1000 Senior Member
    edited January 2014
    durito wrote: »
    You owe taxes on winnings either way. I guess it's easier to hide a bag of cash, but this my only income so I am declaring it all anyway.

    Durito - who you on in foots tonight?
  • BigKahunaBigKahuna Banned
    edited January 2014
    Yeah I was stupid I deposited checks and didn't declare them , got audited screwed big time. Penalties could choke a horse. Not to mention the threat of jail time for tax evasion.

    Collected 129,821 from my bookie in 1 week didn't have o tell a soul. He also said never all me again after handing me the payment. Lol
  • JalapanoseJalapanose Banned
    edited January 2014
    BigKahuna wrote: »
    Yeah I was stupid I deposited checks and didn't declare them , got audited screwed big time. Penalties could choke a horse. Not to mention the threat of jail time for tax evasion.

    Collected 129,821 from my bookie in 1 week didn't have o tell a soul. He also said never all me again after handing me the payment. Lol


    Shark move putting that on a public forum after admitting past tax issue
  • duritodurito Senior Member
    edited January 2014
    golfer1000 wrote: »
    Durito - who you on in foots tonight?

    Nothing on the side/total, a couple Winston over props that are going to lose. First NCAAF game I've seen this season.
  • golfer1000golfer1000 Senior Member
    edited January 2014
    durito wrote: »
    Nothing on the side/total, a couple Winston over props that are going to lose. First NCAAF game I've seen this season.

    Lol - what have u been betting
  • BigKahunaBigKahuna Banned
    edited January 2014
    Somebody at one of my locals banged the ml pretty good. Dropped to +260 right before game time. I got it at +320.
  • underwrapsunderwraps Senior Member
    edited January 2014
    Topic 419 - Gambling Income and Losses
    The following rules apply to casual gamblers. Gambling winnings are fully taxable and must be reported on your tax return. Gambling income includes, but is not limited to, winnings from lotteries, raffles, horse races, and casinos. It includes cash winnings and also the fair market value of prizes such as cars and trips. For additional information, refer to Publication 525, Taxable and Nontaxable Income.

    A payer is required to issue you a Form W-2G (PDF), Certain Gambling Winnings, if you receive certain gambling winnings or if you have any gambling winnings subject to federal income tax withholding. All gambling winnings must be reported on your Form 1040 (PDF) as "Other Income" (line 21), including winnings that are not subject to withholding. In addition, you may be required to pay an estimated tax on your gambling winnings. For information on withholding on gambling winnings, refer to Publication 505, Tax Withholding and Estimated Tax.

    You may deduct gambling losses only if you itemize deductions. However, the amount of losses you deduct may not be more than the amount of gambling income reported on your return. Claim your gambling losses on Form 1040, Schedule A (PDF) as an "Other Miscellaneous Deductions" (line 28) that is not subject to the 2% limit. A nonresident alien of the United States cannot deduct gambling losses on Schedule A of Form 1040NR (PDF).

    It is important to keep an accurate diary or similar record of your gambling winnings and losses. To deduct your losses, you must be able to provide receipts, tickets, statements or other records that show the amount of both your winnings and losses. Refer to Publication 529, Miscellaneous Deductions, for more information.

    If you are considered a nonresident alien of the United States for income tax purposes and you have to file a tax return, you must use Form 1040NR. Refer to Publication 519, U.S. Tax Guide for Aliens, and Publication 901, U.S. Tax Treaties, for more information.
  • groovinmahoovingroovinmahoovin Senior Member
    edited January 2014
    Glad I'm not the only one with Winston overs. (Have ov passing yards here.) My biggest prop bets the last 3 days could not possibly be any worse. (Ov passing yards tonight, Gordon ov rushing yards last night, Charles ov rushing + rec yards on Sunday. All three looked dead as a doornail after 1q.)

    If you haven't been stiffed once in 30 years you run spectacularly good.
  • golfer1000golfer1000 Senior Member
    edited January 2014
    BigKahuna wrote: »
    Somebody at one of my locals banged the ml pretty good. Dropped to +260 right before game time. I got it at +320.
    Hope he wins
  • BigKahunaBigKahuna Banned
    edited January 2014
    underwraps wrote: »
    Topic 419 - Gambling Income and Losses
    The following rules apply to casual gamblers. Gambling winnings are fully taxable and must be reported on your tax return. Gambling income includes, but is not limited to, winnings from lotteries, raffles, horse races, and casinos. It includes cash winnings and also the fair market value of prizes such as cars and trips. For additional information, refer to Publication 525, Taxable and Nontaxable Income.

    A payer is required to issue you a Form W-2G (PDF), Certain Gambling Winnings, if you receive certain gambling winnings or if you have any gambling winnings subject to federal income tax withholding. All gambling winnings must be reported on your Form 1040 (PDF) as "Other Income" (line 21), including winnings that are not subject to withholding. In addition, you may be required to pay an estimated tax on your gambling winnings. For information on withholding on gambling winnings, refer to Publication 505, Tax Withholding and Estimated Tax.

    You may deduct gambling losses only if you itemize deductions. However, the amount of losses you deduct may not be more than the amount of gambling income reported on your return. Claim your gambling losses on Form 1040, Schedule A (PDF) as an "Other Miscellaneous Deductions" (line 28) that is not subject to the 2% limit. A nonresident alien of the United States cannot deduct gambling losses on Schedule A of Form 1040NR (PDF).

    It is important to keep an accurate diary or similar record of your gambling winnings and losses. To deduct your losses, you must be able to provide receipts, tickets, statements or other records that show the amount of both your winnings and losses. Refer to Publication 529, Miscellaneous Deductions, for more information.

    If you are considered a nonresident alien of the United States for income tax purposes and you have to file a tax return, you must use Form 1040NR. Refer to Publication 519, U.S. Tax Guide for Aliens, and Publication 901, U.S. Tax Treaties, for more information.

    What is not shown there is: winnings earned outside the USA are still taxable to us residents. Only country in the world that taxes its residents for income outside its own country. That is what got me !
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