Sharing alltime Sports Service Experiences
hotbustop
Senior Member
OK in honor of the legit cappers who are moving lines it got me to thinking about all the Sports Services I have been a part of over the years. I believe I had my first experience in the mid 80's... And there were some classics. I would love to hear from some of you as I am sure you have some great stories as well:
Here we go -
Gary Austin Sports - This guy had his boiler room callers telling you how they had to stop Gary from diving off the top floor of their building after bad weekends and stuff. Just ridiculous.
Colorado Sports Advisors - Bad picks, constant phone calls to badger you for more
Ed the Professor Horowitz - Scammer, losing picks and always trying to get to your credit card.
Mike Warren Sports - Much better picks than the two above but total scammer. Even had the old credit card charged too much at times. I vividly remember his infamous TURKEY TROT 3 TEAM TEASE/PARLAY for Thanksgiving day.
IM Bettor - Honest guy, had one incredible season but the other years were subpar
Linecrusher - Had numerous winning years, when he gets hot he can go off. Claims to have invented the modern handicapping ways, knows Bill Walters etc Dr Bob and acts as though they defer to him. Very hot headed and can go off on the customer at times. Have lost with him as well.
Dave Compton Sports - Honest guy, won far more than he lost.
Dr Bob - Honest and grinds out winning seasons. Been a little down recently but I still trust him.
Right Angle Sports - Winner for me everytime I used him. Honest guy.
Advantage Sports - Has won and lost for me. I believe him to be honest. I think he is better with his totals than his sides.
Easybaseball betting - Has had its moments, but not convinced they are profitable
AAA Sports - Scammer, put him with Mike Warren, and the first few I listed
I have to laugh and when I realize how many services I went through over the years its funny, the memories come flooding back.
There was another guy who had a website, probably late 90's he went by the name of Wizard Weygint, he was GREAT. Only handicapped the Pac-10 games but was really good on it. He just vanished one year, said the pressure of handicapping for others was too much. I do not remember him ever having a losing college football year. Anyone remember him? I am assuming he was west coast guy.
Would love to hear from some of you. I bet we can put together a great list and share some classic stories!
Here we go -
Gary Austin Sports - This guy had his boiler room callers telling you how they had to stop Gary from diving off the top floor of their building after bad weekends and stuff. Just ridiculous.
Colorado Sports Advisors - Bad picks, constant phone calls to badger you for more
Ed the Professor Horowitz - Scammer, losing picks and always trying to get to your credit card.
Mike Warren Sports - Much better picks than the two above but total scammer. Even had the old credit card charged too much at times. I vividly remember his infamous TURKEY TROT 3 TEAM TEASE/PARLAY for Thanksgiving day.
IM Bettor - Honest guy, had one incredible season but the other years were subpar
Linecrusher - Had numerous winning years, when he gets hot he can go off. Claims to have invented the modern handicapping ways, knows Bill Walters etc Dr Bob and acts as though they defer to him. Very hot headed and can go off on the customer at times. Have lost with him as well.
Dave Compton Sports - Honest guy, won far more than he lost.
Dr Bob - Honest and grinds out winning seasons. Been a little down recently but I still trust him.
Right Angle Sports - Winner for me everytime I used him. Honest guy.
Advantage Sports - Has won and lost for me. I believe him to be honest. I think he is better with his totals than his sides.
Easybaseball betting - Has had its moments, but not convinced they are profitable
AAA Sports - Scammer, put him with Mike Warren, and the first few I listed
I have to laugh and when I realize how many services I went through over the years its funny, the memories come flooding back.
There was another guy who had a website, probably late 90's he went by the name of Wizard Weygint, he was GREAT. Only handicapped the Pac-10 games but was really good on it. He just vanished one year, said the pressure of handicapping for others was too much. I do not remember him ever having a losing college football year. Anyone remember him? I am assuming he was west coast guy.
Would love to hear from some of you. I bet we can put together a great list and share some classic stories!
Comments
Wunderdog - super honest, very successful long term, don't think he's ever "gone off" but his approach is more long term low variance. But you certainly have to be willing bet the ugly dogs week in and week out. I remember dreading the weekend, just hoping for the terrible teams to "hang on" can feel like a beating.
Last update on his site is from 2010..... he's been labeled a fraud/scam at many other forums. Are you serious about your statement? April fools day was 4 months ago bro.
He one of the honest cappers over at pregame, one of the best copy paste touts there is.
Years ago I bought a one-time Saturday package from Razor Sports (I think)......won 2 and lost 3....not much of a sample size, but I was SO SURE that I was buying the golden goose and was going to win.....cheap lesson imo
From time to time I would buy single games from Chip Chrimmbes...he always seemed to bet against the public play and seemed to win more than he lost...I bought a week from him over the first round of the NCAA tournament years ago and his picks were so-so....oddly, he e-mailed me a couple times after mediocre days and told me to hang in there and that things would turn around (not a blast e-mail either)....not the best, but overall not a horrible experience....
My first venture into really paying and using a service was Dr. Bob.....for a couple of years (long ago) you could read all of his write ups on a weekly basis and figure out (for the most part) what the sides of his games were...I don't recall much line movement back then and probably wasn't paying much attention to it anyway....I ultimately started buying his stuff on a weekly or semi-weekly basis and had some good success...One year living in AK I was playing with a local and had a great run before moving out of town.....the bookie was pretty cool and told me that I was one of very few that actually ended up ahead with him.....
And then I stumbled on RAS......and for a handful of years, I had found the golden goose.....had some epic years and by this time I was coming into my own with my own handicapping (I swear I read every one of Ed's write-ups that he posted online and it really advanced my handicapping -- the same can be said to some extent for Dr. Bob).....I know there are folks out there that will take one or two isolated episodes and use them to cast Edward as a common, dishonest tout, but that is just nonesense imo.....I have nothing but great things to say about Edwward and the service...I wish I had the time and energy to continue to fight the battle to subscribe and play with Edward....maybe sometime in the future I will get back on the wagon, but for now it just doesn't work with my life schedule......
I'll go halves with you!
That Coke head Stu Feiner has something similar as well.
It was out of the Northwest (Probably Portland area)...
I remember a local guy (texas) telling me that he had used Blazer before and was pretty good.
I decided to give it a shot. You would have to call in and put in a code at set times and you would be able to hear the outgoing message with the plays 1 time only.
I remember this guy did so terrible that year. He had a younger sounding guy that answered his office phone and I called in one time to ask a question and he said "I doubt we have any subscribers next year".
Crazy times.
"had late information". It was a message so I called back and told them how I got their message about late information but I told them it was for the other team. What happened??? They went on and on about it, so I finally said to them, "actually I was kidding you told me it was the other team". They had no idea what to say. SCUMBAGS.
It was a complete waste of time and a scam. I learned my lesson. He called me a few times and I would say, I will use plays but give me some winners before you ask for more money. He called me a few more times, but then I told him to get lost.
I think the first service I ever used was ATS Consultants. I think I bought the "Finanicial Package" which lost badly. After the second week, they kept trying to selll me the Lock Club by telling me how great they were doing. I was told I wasn't a man and I didn't want to win money.
- first one I bought was Edmund Slick out of Cherry Hill, NJ in the early 80"s. had a recoreded message i called everyday in college.
- this was the time when USA Today used to have their page of sports service advertisements and we call them until we figured out they were all scammers. I got caught buying Super Scout Sports and used my roommate's credit card, lost over a month and then asked for a refund as they promised which of course didn't happen and rthey actually charged it again and my roomie's dad saw it on his statement and all hell broker loose. i was then branded a gambler in college.
- also used the indiana group of Continetal Sports, AUSF led by Bob Firth and Tommy Goodrich where these guys sent out one page front and back colored flyers in the mail and we would drool over their lock games, etc. and then get them through a concensus service out of alabama with a guy named Bob Sparks. We then moved to Sports Monitor then out of Schaumburg, IL which is Joe Michaels and Greg Allen. They now work out of Vegas.
We used them for about 10 years with strict amounts based on the service and size of rating, etc.
- i then used Dr Bob for a few years until using Donn Wagner's group for another handful of years when i stopped cold turkey in 2009.
i play in pools with spread picks and love roto baseball and have had more success in those areas since i quit gambling in 2009. It's pure irony that I've won a NFL pool twice for 2,000 each year and second last year for 1,500. the entry fee is 200. I won my roto baseball league in 2010 and 2011 for 1,800 each year and a placed 3rd last year. Gambling on a daily basis was a passion and love that nearly destroyed me. May luck and extreme discipline be on your side.
Dave the Hat Cokin he's still around with $10 specials if you lose he will give you the next big game free. I played with RAS College Football and Hoops a long time ago and I played and still play with Sixth Sense (NFL not my game) I don't agree with services except of course for the two that I mentioned really can't think of anyone saying anything nice about any other service. When you subscribe to a service the only thing you should expect is hard work and willingness to put the time in to produce. If winners come great if not as long as your getting an honest effort what more can you ask. JMO of course.
bythehook please change your avatar your killing me. JK Love it
OT, agree with the avatar statement!
Haha, I used to get those every week also!! They were classic.
I am 56. I have been in business since 1983 and online since 1998.
I will try to explain this to you. I had a multi million dollar sports service in Las Vegas with a legitimate business license and offices in Las Vegas in the 80's until Nevada basically ran most of us out of business in Nevada in the late 80's (you can email me for the license #s and obviously I have the original documents and license #'s to prove this). Myself and others basically got banned (lost our business licenses) more or less like card counters are banned in Nevada because we were winning...
Go try and open a sports service in Nevada where sports betting is legal. Let me know how that goes...
I am a West Coast guy who now lives on the East Coast.
Nevada is dead to me...
The opening line does not actually originate from Nevada anymore anyway other than Wynn trying to recreate the Stardust line which is where I used to start my day everyday whey back when with the real guns/bookmakers in this business.
Who cares anyway...
There are only two ways to make money in this business. You either book games or you consistently pick winners on the consumer side. I have done both for almost 30 years.
I specialize in winning weeks and net winning units. If that is what you are looking for, you have found the right guy/the right professional service.
In business since 1983.
Online since 1998.