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RonbetsRonbets Senior Member
edited September 2018 in Sports Betting
Claims of non-payment. If you are a juror, who do you side with considering info provided??

http://newjersey.news12.com/story/39116601/2-more-bettors-claim-fanduel-wont-pay-out-on-sports-bets

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  • BobyosaiBobyosai Member
    edited September 2018
    FanDuel - The error in the line was beyond obvious - no other opinion on the line is reasonable.
  • chuckhchuckh Senior Member
    edited September 2018
    Thanks Ron
    These guys are idiots. If you see something too good to be true. Well you get the point.
  • jammerjammer Senior Member
    edited September 2018
    Should have taken the offer of $500 and skybox seats to three Giants games. It's not going to get any better than that.
  • RonbetsRonbets Senior Member
    edited September 2018
    jammer wrote: »
    Should have taken the offer of $500 and skybox seats to three Giants games. It's not going to get any better than that.

    No Jammer he made a good move declining the plea bargain.
    From ESPN.
    " Upon further review, a NJ man will get his full 82k payout on a disputed $110 sports bet. Several other gamblers who made similar bets at wildly inflated odds will also be paid in full, Fanduel said thursday."

    Who said crime doesn't pay?
  • chuckhchuckh Senior Member
    edited September 2018
    I am amazed they paid but then I guess a little advertising dollars goes a long way. I would think that will not happen again or they take live betting down altogether. Anywhere else this would have been denied.
  • R40R40 Senior Member
    edited September 2018
    Ronbets wrote: »
    No Jammer he made a good move declining the plea bargain.
    From ESPN.
    " Upon further review, a NJ man will get his full 82k payout on a disputed $110 sports bet. Several other gamblers who made similar bets at wildly inflated odds will also be paid in full, Fanduel said thursday."

    Who said crime doesn't pay?

    It's not a crime. The book is responsible for its lines. They put up a line and he bet it.
  • R40R40 Senior Member
    edited September 2018
    The guy outcrooked the crooks. He knew he had them the whole way.
  • RonbetsRonbets Senior Member
    edited September 2018
    R40 wrote: »
    It's not a crime. The book is responsible for its lines. They put up a line and he bet it.

    I guess it's not a crime either when the IRS mistakenly refunds you 58k instead of 580 and you wanna keep it.
    You initially stated your moniker 'R40' signifies retired at 40? Sure it's not ROOKIE @ 40?
  • R40R40 Senior Member
    edited September 2018
    Ronbets wrote: »
    I guess it's not a crime either when the IRS mistakenly refunds you 58k instead of 580 and you wanna keep it.
    You initially stated your moniker 'R40' signifies retired at 40? Sure it's not ROOKIE @ 40?

    LOL. That's a bookie's mindset.

    It's called gambling. He knew he had a winning hand. He won.
  • RonbetsRonbets Senior Member
    edited September 2018
    R40 wrote: »
    LOL. That's a bookie's mindset.

    It's called gambling. He knew he had a winning hand. He won.

    Nah, it's shot-taking opportunists that screamed to the media in an attempt to legitimize the theft to the novice public.
    For whatever reason, FanDuel whimped out. Maybe positive PR? Dunno, but they were a prohibitive chalk to win a favorable ruling from the NJ Gaming Commission.
  • R40R40 Senior Member
    edited September 2018
    Ronbets wrote: »
    Nah, it's shot-taking opportunists that screamed to the media in an attempt to legitimize the theft to the novice public.
    For whatever reason, FanDuel whimped out. Maybe positive PR? Dunno, but they were a prohibitive chalk to win a favorable ruling from the NJ Gaming Commission.

    Yeah, he bet they would give in when it was pushed. It was very bad publicity to not pay a bet when you are just starting gambling in the state. The public sides with the bettor. They won't be doing much of that in the future.
  • babaorileybabaoriley Senior Member
    edited September 2018
    R40 - You take a shot like that anywhere else and you're likely cut off or given the proverbial penultimate strike. That type of shit doesn't play well online or in established markets. Hell, if my local was off to such a comical degree and I took a shot, I could pretty much count on that being the last bet I ever placed with him. There was no master strategy from the shot-takers - they just took a shot at an obvious bad line and then lucked into Fan Duel cowing so as not to have public perception sour.
  • Casper WareCasper Ware Senior Member
    edited September 2018
    Ronbets wrote: »
    Nah, it's shot-taking opportunists that screamed to the media in an attempt to legitimize the theft to the novice public.
    For whatever reason, FanDuel whimped out. Maybe positive PR? Dunno, but they were a prohibitive chalk to win a favorable ruling from the NJ Gaming Commission.

    didn't whimp out, knew they were going to lose case

    - - - Updated - - -

    the dictatorships are over. shot taking is what Americans do, that why 90 pct of them cheat on taxes, that's why 60 pct of them are getting govt pensions or assistance
  • RonbetsRonbets Senior Member
    edited September 2018
    didn't whimp out, knew they were going to lose case

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    the dictatorships are over. shot taking is what Americans do, that why 90 pct of them cheat on taxes, that's why 60 pct of them are getting govt pensions or assistance

    Dunno where u get ur stats but one thing for sure, your beloved California leads the nation in poverty, 19%.

    Adding....Gaming Commissions are normally in bed with house. I've had slam dunk cases here ruled against me.
  • R40R40 Senior Member
    edited September 2018
    babaoriley wrote: »
    R40 - You take a shot like that anywhere else and you're likely cut off or given the proverbial penultimate strike. That type of shit doesn't play well online or in established markets. Hell, if my local was off to such a comical degree and I took a shot, I could pretty much count on that being the last bet I ever placed with him. There was no master strategy from the shot-takers - they just took a shot at an obvious bad line and then lucked into Fan Duel cowing so as not to have public perception sour.

    Probably no master strategy in making the bet. Definitely was strategy in challenging them on it. It's called gamesmanship and it was well played.
  • RonbetsRonbets Senior Member
    edited September 2018
    R40,

    You appear to be a text book educated sharp. However, you are lacking on-the-job training.
  • R40R40 Senior Member
    edited September 2018
    Ronbets wrote: »
    R40,

    You appear to be a text book educated sharp. However, you are lacking on-the-job training.

    I don't care if he SHOULD have won it or not. The fact is he bet $100 and won. He was willing to throw the money away in return for the chance at the $82,000. He won. He challenged them with an advantage and he won again. The victor takes the spoils.

    Gambling is two scumbags across from one another. He out scumbagged them fair and square.
  • RonbetsRonbets Senior Member
    edited September 2018
    R40 wrote: »
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    Gambling is two scumbags across from one another. He out scumbagged them fair and square.

    Well you're half right. Why do you label a new outfit taking straight bets "scumbags"? It's not easy posting an in-progress line in less than a minute window. Pinnacle makes these same mistakes often. Voided long after the fact.
  • R40R40 Senior Member
    edited September 2018
    Ronbets wrote: »
    Well you're half right. Why do you label a new outfit taking straight bets "scumbags"? It's not easy posting an in-progress line in less than a minute window. Pinnacle makes these same mistakes often. Voided long after the fact.

    Gambling is an inherently scumbag activity. We know if the bet had lost, they would have taken his money and not refunded it. Yes, it is very difficult and you take your risks when you start posting lines. You do not necessarily get a do-over. And in this case, there were no do-overs. That is called business risk.
  • RonbetsRonbets Senior Member
    edited September 2018
    R40 wrote: »
    Gambling is an inherently scumbag activity. We know if the bet had lost, they would have taken his money and not refunded it.

    We are all born with a certain degree of larceny in our hearts. For you to suggest this theft was legit.........well your amount is much higher than the 'norm'. How do you know they wouldn't refund the bet if lost? If they paid out mega thousands don't you think they wudda paid out peanuts?
    Put the text books down and get out and try some application. Real world and real people.
  • R40R40 Senior Member
    edited September 2018
    Ronbets wrote: »
    We are all born with a certain degree of larceny in our hearts. For you to suggest this theft was legit.........well your amount is much higher than the 'norm'. How do you know they wouldn't refund the bet if lost? If they paid out mega thousands don't you think they wudda paid out peanuts?
    Put the text books down and get out and try some application. Real world and real people.

    You need to get in the real world rather than this scumbag world you have lived in. This is gambling man. You put out the line and people bet it. That is the rule. If you want to offer lax bets and count on your rules or regulator pals to cover you, you may be for a surprise. This was a legal and legit bet. It was not theft. He was better than the casino. He won. They tried to plead incompetence. They lost.

    That's real world gambling for high stakes in New Jersey.

    The gambler had the edge all the way, he exploted it. That is how gambling works. FanDuel gets to try again.
  • RonbetsRonbets Senior Member
    edited September 2018
    You get the last word(ego) even though you have no clue of proper gaming protocol. If you tried that skulduggery with some private off-screen outs, you might get a headache. Go get that last word!
  • R40R40 Senior Member
    edited September 2018
    Ronbets wrote: »
    You get the last word(ego) even though you have no clue of proper gaming protocol. If you tried that skulduggery with some private off-screen outs, you might get a headache. Go get that last word!

    LOL. That is the difference between gambling with scumbags and gambling in NJ. FanDuel failed to account for the risks. The gambler knew the payoff. And yes, he probably knew the plan of action. Don't go applying for any risk management jobs at FanDuel Ronbets. You will lose them another 82K by failing to account for all the risks in the state of New Jersey.
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