15-7 Last 3 days. How many of the lines are you getting at release Okie? Every play I get has moved at minimum 1.5 points by the time I get the text. Tonight's play was the first play I got at only 1 point of movement. Yesterday I logged in almost immediately and the Illinois Chicago game had moved close to 6 points by the time I got logged in. The other crappy part for me personally is that my local doesn't throw out a total on some of the games Doc releases. I counted 4 plays on Saturday that I wasn't able to play, and wouldn't you know it 3/4 were winners. I don't check my email that often so maybe they come there quicker and would give me more time to get them put in.
There's no doubt the guy knows his stuff though and should be a respected handicapper as he's up 13 units so far this year and I think he's lost 10-12 games in overtime.
Ok so when i add the WA totals, sides, and the missing sides form last year I get negative.
I'm not going to argue you with you or anyone else on this topic. If you read his site the following is posted for everyone to see:
Please make sure the service is appropriate for you, and that you have the necessary money management skills, bankroll, availability, and sportsbooks to justify the cost of the service. Past results are no guarantee of future results, and results will vary.
This may be part of my issue, I'm using a local and the second I go to input my password it says line has changed EVERY time.
I would think they couldn't be faster than the online books. But i've never used your local. With the online books you still have to move fast but not RAS fast.
I get 99% of the releases using a combo of local/PPH and offshore. I'm able to get his releases at some books that i cannot get RAS or StevieY releases.
non-TV totals I have less outs, so a slow loading website on a phone will sometimes prevent me from getting a release.
when you guys say 'local' you're talking about a PPH correct? Or are you literally calling in a bet?
Mine is a PPH correct and the majority of my problems are on the non tv games as well. The TV games move pretty quick but my issue with the non tv is that the lines aren't available.
baffles me a bit that you go out of your way to congratulate the good doc oki? You were chastised by this guy on a million counts but again have gone out of your way on numerous occasions since he went tout to recognize him when he wins. I'm all for giving props, its just something I would expect more from golfer (no offense) and not someone that had an ongoing, daily battle with him for quite some time. kind of a mind scrambler...
I'm not going to argue you with you or anyone else on this topic. If you read his site the following is posted for everyone to see:
Please make sure the service is appropriate for you, and that you have the necessary money management skills, bankroll, availability, and sportsbooks to justify the cost of the service. Past results are no guarantee of future results, and results will vary.
i'm still wondering what happened to not paying for picks brother? you swore up and down that you don't pay for plays? not being a prick but you boasted openly that people were idiots who paid for plays but now that someone is winning you say you're paying? hmm. confusing is all i guess.
I've had no problems getting non TV totals, TV totals and halftimes at multiple books per play. You do have to be ready to fire quickly when they come out.
baffles me a bit that you go out of your way to congratulate the good doc oki? You were chastised by this guy on a million counts but again have gone out of your way on numerous occasions since he went tout to recognize him when he wins. I'm all for giving props, its just something I would expect more from golfer (no offense) and not someone that had an ongoing, daily battle with him for quite some time. kind of a mind scrambler...
He rode me from day 1 as well, but I've grown 100 fold since my first BT post, and I believe H was in the right. Even after starting off on the wrong foot, I value H as an important contact. Holding grudges is a dangerous game.
i'm still wondering what happened to not paying for picks brother? you swore up and down that you don't pay for plays? not being a prick but you boasted openly that people were idiots who paid for plays but now that someone is winning you say you're paying? hmm. confusing is all i guess.
It's probably because he's exceeding expectations for himself as an originator. Things change and if good information is free it won't be beneficial for many except the one giving it.
i'm still wondering what happened to not paying for picks brother? you swore up and down that you don't pay for plays? not being a prick but you boasted openly that people were idiots who paid for plays but now that someone is winning you say you're paying? hmm. confusing is all i guess.
Read the original post wrong. I took it as a knock on H denouncing guys who sell picks. My [out of context] statement still holds true for guys who progress to the point of having valuable enough info to sell.
One of our most valuable assets as human beings is the ability to change. It's also becomes more and more difficult to do the older you get.
He rode me from day 1 as well, but I've grown 100 fold since my first BT post, and I believe H was in the right. Even after starting off on the wrong foot, I value H as an important contact. Holding grudges is a dangerous game.
I couldn't agree more with what you're saying other than I think oki vs doc/tribe was a bit of a different situation. No need for grudges for sure and I'm not denouncing anything that H lis doing. Always good to see folks win and if they can continue to do so then that's a impressive thing. I was just referring to oki and how he's come a long way I guess. Even H asked him if he was bipolar a few times if I remember correctly . No knocks on anyone.
Did I say that I would take him out to drink?
LMAO
I try and watch all cappers and just stated that he is doing well
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I actually remember you saying you would pay for his trip to stay a weekend with you in Equador...just sayin....I know you're an old bastard like me and the alzheimer's is setting in so thought I would remind you
I actually remember you saying you would pay for his trip to stay a weekend with you in Equador...just sayin....I know you're an old bastard like me and the alzheimer's is setting in so thought I would remind you
If u had any Man Kind Folks at all, you would say to my face!
B there 3-15 - 3-23
We shall set up and grab OT and his wheel chair; will call
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15-7 Last 3 days. How many of the lines are you getting at release Okie? Every play I get has moved at minimum 1.5 points by the time I get the text. Tonight's play was the first play I got at only 1 point of movement. Yesterday I logged in almost immediately and the Illinois Chicago game had moved close to 6 points by the time I got logged in. The other crappy part for me personally is that my local doesn't throw out a total on some of the games Doc releases. I counted 4 plays on Saturday that I wasn't able to play, and wouldn't you know it 3/4 were winners. I don't check my email that often so maybe they come there quicker and would give me more time to get them put in.
There's no doubt the guy knows his stuff though and should be a respected handicapper as he's up 13 units so far this year and I think he's lost 10-12 games in overtime.
Go to his website and click on NCAAB for his results the last 2 years.
Are you playing with a local or online if you don't mind me asking?
Ok so when i add the WA totals, sides, and the missing sides form last year I get negative.
Online. I have never used a local.
I'm not going to argue you with you or anyone else on this topic. If you read his site the following is posted for everyone to see:
Please make sure the service is appropriate for you, and that you have the necessary money management skills, bankroll, availability, and sportsbooks to justify the cost of the service. Past results are no guarantee of future results, and results will vary.
This may be part of my issue, I'm using a local and the second I go to input my password it says line has changed EVERY time.
I would think they couldn't be faster than the online books. But i've never used your local. With the online books you still have to move fast but not RAS fast.
non-TV totals I have less outs, so a slow loading website on a phone will sometimes prevent me from getting a release.
Mine is a PPH correct and the majority of my problems are on the non tv games as well. The TV games move pretty quick but my issue with the non tv is that the lines aren't available.
160-130, +17 units on WA full game totals last two years.
Congrats.
i'm still wondering what happened to not paying for picks brother? you swore up and down that you don't pay for plays? not being a prick but you boasted openly that people were idiots who paid for plays but now that someone is winning you say you're paying? hmm. confusing is all i guess.
I watch him
He rode me from day 1 as well, but I've grown 100 fold since my first BT post, and I believe H was in the right. Even after starting off on the wrong foot, I value H as an important contact. Holding grudges is a dangerous game.
It's probably because he's exceeding expectations for himself as an originator. Things change and if good information is free it won't be beneficial for many except the one giving it.
Read the original post wrong. I took it as a knock on H denouncing guys who sell picks. My [out of context] statement still holds true for guys who progress to the point of having valuable enough info to sell.
One of our most valuable assets as human beings is the ability to change. It's also becomes more and more difficult to do the older you get.
I couldn't agree more with what you're saying other than I think oki vs doc/tribe was a bit of a different situation. No need for grudges for sure and I'm not denouncing anything that H lis doing. Always good to see folks win and if they can continue to do so then that's a impressive thing. I was just referring to oki and how he's come a long way I guess. Even H asked him if he was bipolar a few times if I remember correctly . No knocks on anyone.
What is "WA" record? guys?
And I'd also like to thank Dr. H for these great picks. Especially the non tv totals, really beasting there.
Did I say that I would take him out to drink?
LMAO
I try and watch all cappers and just stated that he is doing well
Oil and Vinegar here
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I actually remember you saying you would pay for his trip to stay a weekend with you in Equador...just sayin....I know you're an old bastard like me and the alzheimer's is setting in so thought I would remind you
If u had any Man Kind Folks at all, you would say to my face!
B there 3-15 - 3-23
We shall set up and grab OT and his wheel chair; will call
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