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cpech56cpech56 Senior Member
edited October 2014 in Sports Betting
Anyone shopped lines with this book?

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  • eug44eug44 Senior Member
    edited October 2014
    cpech56 wrote: »
    Anyone shopped lines with this book?

    They get their feed from bookmaker, its a pph I don't think they take deposits and if they do they don't have withdrawals.
  • duritodurito Senior Member
    edited October 2014
    eug44 wrote: »
    They get their feed from bookmaker, its a pph I don't think they take deposits and if they do they don't have withdrawals.

    Wrong on all 3.
  • cpech56cpech56 Senior Member
    edited October 2014
    durito wrote: »
    Wrong on all 3.

    They do take deposits, I made one awhile back and took advantage of a nice deposit bonus. They had a 200% match so I deposited $550. Been playing a unit here and there when their lines are favorable. Worked it up to a decent amount knowing I had a 15X rollover before I could make a withdrawl. Finally thought I hit my rollover yesterday. Come to find out their saying the deposit + 200% match is included in the rollover.

    I was thinking it was $550 X 15 = $8,250

    I guess it's $1,650 X 15 = $24,750

    Needless to say I'll be playing awhile longer before withdrawing. Does anyone know if I can count on the WD when the time comes?
  • duritodurito Senior Member
    edited October 2014
    Yes, they will pay you same day.
  • Old-TimerOld-Timer Senior Member
    edited October 2014
    cpech56 wrote: »
    They do take deposits, I made one awhile back and took advantage of a nice deposit bonus. They had a 200% match so I deposited $550. Been playing a unit here and there when their lines are favorable. Worked it up to a decent amount knowing I had a 15X rollover before I could make a withdrawl. Finally thought I hit my rollover yesterday. Come to find out their saying the deposit + 200% match is included in the rollover.

    I was thinking it was $550 X 15 = $8,250

    I guess it's $1,650 X 15 = $24,750

    Needless to say I'll be playing awhile longer before withdrawing. Does anyone know if I can count on the WD when the time comes?

    It's been my experience over the years the the bonus was always included in the rollover. I don't play much off shore anymore but I don't think that's changed anywhere. 15 time roll-over that's a tough one Good Luck. May I ask was the match free play or cash I'm assuming free play.
  • cpech56cpech56 Senior Member
    edited October 2014
    Old-Timer wrote: »
    It's been my experience over the years the the bonus was always included in the rollover. I don't play much off shore anymore but I don't think that's changed anywhere. 15 time roll-over that's a tough one Good Luck. May I ask was the match free play or cash I'm assuming free play.


    You're correct OT the $1100 in added $ to my account was in the form of free plays. Other shops I've used only allow you to do straight bets with the FB but these guys let me do whatever I wanted with that amount and it can be broken down into whatever amounts you want it doesn't have to go all on one bet. The other thing that's frustrating and maybe this is the case everywhere but say you bet $100 to win $70 on something and the wager wins they only count the lower of the two amounts towards my rollover. Would be nice to have a local but I do what I have to do. It's just going to take awhile only playing $100 units. But at the same time it's good for me to continue working in staying disciplined.
  • Old-TimerOld-Timer Senior Member
    edited October 2014
    cpech56 wrote: »
    You're correct OT the $1100 in added $ to my account was in the form of free plays. Other shops I've used only allow you to do straight bets with the FB but these guys let me do whatever I wanted with that amount and it can be broken down into whatever amounts you want it doesn't have to go all on one bet. The other thing that's frustrating and maybe this is the case everywhere but say you bet $100 to win $70 on something and the wager wins they only count the lower of the two amounts towards my rollover. Would be nice to have a local but I do what I have to do. It's just going to take awhile only playing $100 units. But at the same time it's good for me to continue working in staying disciplined.

    So if you bet $100 to win $70 and win they only count the $70 towards the rollover. That's not right but as you say what are you going to do it's a different world now not like the Neteller/Pinny days. Most places I've played at let me do anything also with the free play and IMO Round Robins was my bet of choice with free play. The sister book of the The Greek (Olympia) when they took US players were great. They had a loyalty program and every few months I would call or email them and tell them to add my points to my account in Free play of course and would get a few $100 and play R/R's and one time I had $400 in free play and hit two R/R's $50 a way two days in a row and always short ML dogs it was so great. Well good talking to you and Good Luck today and in the future.
  • lilylily Senior Member
    edited October 2014
    Greek and their sister book Bet Jamaica were great outs..
  • Old-TimerOld-Timer Senior Member
    edited October 2014
    lily wrote: »
    Greek and their sister book Bet Jamaica were great outs..
    That's right Bet Jam couldn't remember the name and yes they were great.
  • cpech56cpech56 Senior Member
    edited October 2014
    For many of you guys that frequently visit other forums you know who George from HRW is.....Anyway, I just spoke with him to clear up some of my rollover questions. He explained that most all books make it so that when you place a wager say $100 to win $70 that the lower of the two numbers goes towards your rollover. I politely told George that I've never had that be the case anywhere else. He said the reason it's done that way is so that a person with say a $500 deposit bets on a heavy ML play say $500 to win $50 then they've already made a huge dent in their rollover and that would constitute as "abusing" the free play $. Since betting on a team thats -1000 is so smart....... Anyone want to buy out this account for say 75% of what I have in there.......? lol what a joke of a shop. Should've listened and stuck with 5Dimes.
  • duritodurito Senior Member
    edited October 2014
    cpech56 wrote: »
    For many of you guys that frequently visit other forums you know who George from HRW is.....Anyway, I just spoke with him to clear up some of my rollover questions. He explained that most all books make it so that when you place a wager say $100 to win $70 that the lower of the two numbers goes towards your rollover. I politely told George that I've never had that be the case anywhere else. He said the reason it's done that way is so that a person with say a $500 deposit bets on a heavy ML play say $500 to win $50 then they've already made a huge dent in their rollover and that would constitute as "abusing" the free play $. Since betting on a team thats -1000 is so smart....... Anyone want to buy out this account for say 75% of what I have in there.......? lol what a joke of a shop. Should've listened and stuck with 5Dimes.

    That's the standard rule at every single sportsbook in the world. Only one that did it the other way was WSEX.
  • cpech56cpech56 Senior Member
    edited October 2014
    durito wrote: »
    That's the standard rule at every single sportsbook in the world. Only one that did it the other way was WSEX.

    I trust that you're right on that Durito. Just doesn't make much sense in my opinion but then again I would never lay a bet on odds like that. I used Jazz for years and I could've sworn it was always the amount risked and unless the bet was a push or a free play the amount applied was the amount wagered not the amount won.
  • cpech56cpech56 Senior Member
    edited October 2014
    And what offshore books even offer ML plays on teams -1000 anyway?
  • TommyLTommyL Super Moderator
    edited October 2014
    durito wrote: »
    That's the standard rule at every single sportsbook in the world. Only one that did it the other way was WSEX.

    I've never seen a book handle it any differently than this. Any book that I've ever played with would count a 100 to win 70 bet as 70 towards the rollover if it wins. I have seen a few places count it as 100 if it loses, but the standard is to count it as 70 regardless of the outcome.
  • TommyLTommyL Super Moderator
    edited October 2014
    cpech56 wrote: »
    And what offshore books even offer ML plays on teams -1000 anyway?

    5dimes for one, they'll offer a money line on virtually anything it seems.
  • lumpy19lumpy19 Senior Member
    edited October 2014
    cpech56 wrote: »
    For many of you guys that frequently visit other forums you know who George from HRW is.....Anyway, I just spoke with him to clear up some of my rollover questions. He explained that most all books make it so that when you place a wager say $100 to win $70 that the lower of the two numbers goes towards your rollover. I politely told George that I've never had that be the case anywhere else. He said the reason it's done that way is so that a person with say a $500 deposit bets on a heavy ML play say $500 to win $50 then they've already made a huge dent in their rollover and that would constitute as "abusing" the free play $. Since betting on a team thats -1000 is so smart....... Anyone want to buy out this account for say 75% of what I have in there.......? lol what a joke of a shop. Should've listened and stuck with 5Dimes.

    How much you have in there? Any freeplay money left?
  • cpech56cpech56 Senior Member
    edited October 2014
    No free play left and available balance is $1736 with some small college football futures pending.


    ODDS TO WIN THE BIG TEN CONFERENCE
    Ticket# Date placed Detail Amount
    43890254 Aug 19
    10:38 AM [13143] IOWA +1000
    25
    To Win 250
    ODDS TO WIN THE BIG TEN EAST DIVISION
    Ticket# Date placed Detail Amount
    43890255 Aug 19
    10:38 AM [13323] MICHIGAN STATE +200
    25
    To Win 50
    STRAIGHT BET
    Ticket# Date placed Detail Amount
    43890256 Aug 19
    10:38 AM [71071] OVER REG SEASON WINS (OVER REG SEASON WINS vrs UNDER REG SEASON WINS) o8½-115 (IOWA REGULAR SEASON WINS)
    25
    To Win 22
    STRAIGHT BET
    Ticket# Date placed Detail Amount
    43890257 Aug 19
    10:38 AM [71130] UNDER REG SEASON WINS (OVER REG SEASON WINS vrs UNDER REG SEASON WINS) u10½EV (OHIO STATE REGULAR SEASON WINS)
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